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Best BS, Dread and Carrier - Switchback - 02-04-2012
Looks: Arbiter (Damn thing looks like a proper battleship)
Stats: LD sadly. |:
Best BS, Dread and Carrier - Knjaz - 02-04-2012
Define "Best", please. (didn't vote yet)
But for anti-battleship duty, it's LibDread, no doubt. Light Battleship's evasive ability, medium battleship's powercore/armor and heavy battleship's firepower. What else would you need (for that specific task)
Counterbalanced by pretty bad anti-snub capabilities. (although, for example, Mako does not have LibDread's anti-BS capability, but pretty bad lvl8 slots as well. So I guess it's about shipline balance... or something)
Best BS, Dread and Carrier - leonidos - 02-04-2012
In my choice:
Legate
Bret BS
Kusari BS
Liberty Dread
Rheinland BS
Ransuer
Valor
Liberty Carrier
Redemption
Osiris
Mako
I put legate in my first choice for its all out attack and medium manuverabilty, However in 4.86 it stucks so much it sucks in astoroids.
Brtornia bs is good in both side.
Kusari BS was my first choice in 4.85 for its sleek design. But 4.86 has taken all advantage of frontal attack and forced it to side attack. Now only 2 class 9 and 2 class 10 fires forward.
Rheinland BS was also vary good in 4.85, but in 4.86 its class 10/9 hardpoint positions are in bad position.
I love the ransuer design of 4.86 but its engine looks so bad, dont like to fly it.
Liberty dread is more or less same in 4.85 and 4.86.
Liberty carrier is heavily buffed as a secondary defence fire.
Valor is also very good in frontal attack. Dont tested its secondaries yet in 4.86.
Same as redemption.
Osiris was great in 4.85 but it got butchered by devs and admins heavily in 4.86. Sadly with one more heavy slot it can be better but thats already denied.
I didnt tried mako but its looks balanced in 4.86.
Didnt tries and zoner caps yet
dont like the hessian bs(as i see its easily cripples by legates)
Never saw a togo.
LH bs is restricted now. And CR bs is faction only so didnt tried them.
Best BS, Dread and Carrier - Miaou - 02-04-2012
All are terrible. I prefer cruisers over those, then again bombers can take all caps out with ease.
Best BS, Dread and Carrier - leonidos - 02-04-2012
' Wrote:All are terrible. I prefer cruisers over those, then again bombers can take all caps out with ease.Not that much easy i think. I belive Nova range is now down to 1200 insted of 3000 and bs solaris and secondaries have a medium range now. Which is good, really good. I dont like the set up very much but its quite balanced.
The only problem is with hardpoints, sometimes they are in very wrong place. Rheinland bs has one class 10 slot that only fire downward as i tested. Rhe worst case however as i told before is for the kusari bs.
Best BS, Dread and Carrier - Jessitrescott - 02-04-2012
Well All ossies are getting this setup currently
6 Solaries , 1 Missile,1 heavy mortar and some primaries if i am right
so yes all BS are now becoming Anti Snub not anti cap
Best BS, Dread and Carrier - Syrus - 02-04-2012
I'll stick with the LN Dread as the "best" (most op) BS in cap fights. Lacks snubdefenses though.
Runners up are the Togo and Bret BS. In cap fights that is. Kusari BS is also one of the top five. Hard to say what's the 5th ship, but guess I'll just leave that open.
Best BS, Dread and Carrier - ryoken - 02-04-2012
' Wrote:All are terrible. I prefer cruisers over those, then again bombers can take all caps out with ease.
Bombers plural yes. 1 on 1 no bomber has ever taken out any of my GB's/Cruisers/ or Yorktown.
You need 2 for GB/Cruiser, and 3+ for a BS if piloted right. Why i dislike new setups. My Lib dread took out 4 bombers/4 fighters 1 on 8 in 4.85. 4.86 i do not think i could take out 2. They would not get me either, so it would last until 1 side got backup.
All those yelling Osiris got nerfed do not know how to use it.
Best BS, Dread and Carrier - Knjaz - 02-04-2012
' Wrote:Not that much easy i think. I belive Nova range is now down to 1200 insted of 3000 and bs solaris and secondaries have a medium range now. Which is good, really good. I dont like the set up very much but its quite balanced.
The only problem is with hardpoints, sometimes they are in very wrong place. Rheinland bs has one class 10 slot that only fire downward as i tested. Rhe worst case however as i told before is for the kusari bs.
If FLStat is right, Nova has a lifetime of 37.5 and seeker range of 4200m.
Also, Nova keeps the speed bonus received from ship acceleration while changing it's flight path.
As for RM BS... arent those 3 slots on right/left sides shoot upwards/downwards?
' Wrote:Well All ossies are getting this setup currently
6 Solaries , 1 Missile,1 heavy mortar and some primaries if i am right
so yes all BS are now becoming Anti Snub not anti cap
Wrong. Light battleships with ~6 solaris slots become anti-cap/cruiser, because, usually solaris coverage is so bad, that after getting a 360 flak (2 of them, due to arcs), you're left with 2 lvl8 guns shooting sideways.
Last time we've met full secondary ossie, without flaks, we blew off 2 of his guns with missiles and put rest into orange/red condition. And allowed him to dock afterwards (not gonna work with a sane battleship pilot that knows what he's doing and isn't afraid to give away blue message, but still)
Best BS, Dread and Carrier - leonidos - 02-04-2012
' Wrote:If FLStat is right, Nova has a lifetime of 37.5 and seeker range of 4200m.Heavy slots of battleships are for anti capial duty. When we face any cap we do head on fight. So haveing class 10 slots that fires up/down are worthless. The class 10 and class 9 are best suited frontal fire.
Also, Nova keeps the speed bonus received from ship acceleration while changing it's flight path.
As for RM BS... arent those 3 slots on right/left sides shoot upwards/downwards?