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RoS feedback - Lohingren - 04-05-2008
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Faction Tag: [RoS]
ID used:Outcast
Description:
10 years before the coalition war 10 pilots where trained and biologically enhanced to counter act the Coalition threat codenamed Fallen Angels. About a year before the sleeper ships where launched to the Sirius sector these pilots vanished some say they where sick of all the fighting and decided to let the rest of them fight there war. struggling for over 800 years to survive just outside the sol system, The survivors of the Fallen angels lived in piece. until the coalition forces ran them from they're homes.
The Few Remaining Survivors of the raid slowly became begrudged against mankind, they sought vengeance amongst the men who turned them into things just to fight. shortly after entering Sirius to find the wreckage of the hispania, The Fallen angels stumbled across the planet of malta, at 1st the outcasts where uneasy about theyre new inhabitants but after some time. the Fallen Angels and Outcasts came to a agreement, in exchange for theyre help the outcasts would lend us theyre resources to fuel our personal war against humanity. but 1st they had to destroy the outcasts threat the one known as the Corsairs.
More Details can be found HERE
Goals
To Aid the Outcasts in theyre plight against sirius to help them spread the orange dream.
To punish all sinners and to kill all who have the power or plan on waging another war to save human kind from itself that is the goal of the reapers so that no longer will human take part in meaningless war
Members/Ranks:
[RoS]Lohingren[X] - Archon (Leader)
-[RoS]-Vincent.Corona[E] - Supreme Commander (2nd in command)
-[RoS]Christiano Audaz[E] - Commander (joint 3rd in command)
-[RoS]Silent_Assasin[X] - Fallen Angel (joint 3rd in command)
-[RoS]Juan_Zavala[V] (Sabre)- Grand Reaper (2nd in command of Fallen Angel squadron
-[RoS]Vincent.Corona[W] (Sabre) - Grand Reaper (Devil Wing Squad leader
-[RoS]Vengence[X] (Falcata)- Grand Reaper (2nd in command of Skull squadron)
-[RoS]Thor[E] (Gunboat)- Grand Reaper (3rd in command of Epigoni)
-[RoS]Predator[X] (Sabre)- Soul Reaper
-[RoS]Queenbee[X] (Gunboat) - Soul Reaper
-[RoS]SnapDragon[X] (Sabre) - Soul Reaper
-[RoS]Rauch[E] (Sabre)- Grim Reaper
-[RoS]Tazor[V] (Sabre) - Grim Reaper
-[RoS]Fredjik[E] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Crunchy[E] (Falcata)- Reaper
-[RoS]Illusion[V] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Dark_Ranger[E] (Sabre) Reaper
-[RoS]Matheus[X] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Z'ha'dum[E] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Viktor.Guerra[E] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Sergio.Pacelli[V] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Saren[X] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Velri.Demetri[X] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Eclipse[X] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Bass[X] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Esteban[W] (Falcata) - Reaper
-[RoS]Gladius[W] (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Stormwind[W] (Falcata) - Reaper
-[RoS]Wizard[W] (Falcata) - Reaper
-[RoS]Diavolo[V] - (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Black.Corona[V] - (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]DesertSword[X] - (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Deadpool[V] - (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Wraith[E] - (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Strelok[E] - (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Uvas[X] - (Sabre) - Reaper
-[RoS]Hatchet[X] - (Scimitar) - Reaper
-[RoS]Imaginary[X] - (Scimitar) - Reaper
Current Squadrons
Skull Squadron
Squad Tag:
[X]
Squad Leader:
[RoS]Lohingren[X]
[RoS]Vengeance[X](2nd in command of squadron)
Squad Members:
[RoS]QueenBee[X]
[RoS]Predator[X]
[RoS]Snap Dragon[X]
[RoS]Matheus[X]
[RoS]Eclipse[X]
[RoS]Bass[X]
[RoS]Saren[X]
[RoS]Valeri.Demetri[X]
[RoS]Deadpool[X]
[RoS]Uvas[X]
[RoS]Hatchet[X]
[RoS]Imaginary[X]
[RoS]Osorojo[X]
Fallen Angels
Squad Tag:
[V]
Squad Leader:
[RoS]Silent_Assasin[V]
{RoS}Juan_Zavala[V] - Second in Command
Squad members
[RoS]Vanquisher[V]
[RoS]Juan_Zavala[V]
[RoS]Nosferatu[V]
[RoS]Illusion[V]
[RoS]Sergio Facelli[V]
[RoS]Tazor[V]
[RoS]Diavolo[V]
[RoS]Black.Corona[V]
Epigoni Squadron
Squad Tag
[E]
Squad Leader's:
[RoS]Vincent_Corona[E] (1st)
[RoS]Christiano_Audaz[E] (2nd)
Squad Members:
[RoS]fredjik[E]
[RoS]Crunchy[E]
[RoS]Z'ha'dum[E]
[RoS]Rauch[E]
[RoS]Strelok[E]
Devil Wing Squadron
Squad Tag
[W]
Squadron Leader
[RoS]Thor[W]
Squad Members
[RoS]Esteban[W]
[RoS]Stormwind[W]
[RoS]Wizard[W]
[RoS]Gladius[W]
Allies
PF:
[BLS]
NovaPG
[LR]
[HF]
LH
66th
GC
RHA
HT
UOG
NPC:
Outcast
molly
Liberty Rogue
Red Hessians
Lane HAckers
Blood Dragon
Golden Crysanthymums
Friendly
PF:
BU
Phantoms
NPC:
Bundshueh
Phantoms
Junkers
Neutral
PF:
TAZ
[M]
IND
QCRF
BPA
AD
NPC:
zoner
Unioner
Bretonian Armed Forces, Police, and Corperations (will 'Fine' if outside Bretonia)
Unfriendly
PF:
NLH
\JG/
Repex
BS
KoF
RM
RFP
AFA
NPC:
Gaian
The Order
Rhienland military, police, and corperations
Military Id
Freelancer ID
Trader ID
Farmers allience
Search and Destroy, KOS, Enemy, KILLKILLKILL!
PF:
Benitez
DW
KNF
LSF
SCRA
SA
TBH
BD
=CR=
PRF
LSF
XA
SSO
KOF
NPC:
Liberty Navy, Police, and corperations
Kusari Navy, Police, and corperations
Corsairs
IMG
Farmers allience
GMG
Bounty Hunters
Xenos
Hogosha
Recruitment:
*Recruitment open*
Post in the [RoS] Recruitment thread, pm me on the field or here or goto our forum
Here
Requirements:
We have one or two requirements to join.
1) basic RP skills don't need much but i would prefer slight skill in the matter
2) you will undergo a trial on request to join details will be given when you do this will either be knowledge based or skill based or even both so prepare
3) If you have a sanction i wanna know about it before i even think of letting you join i wont have our rep be dragged down by a unlawful
Ships and Equipment Allowed:
Sabre (issued on joining)
Falcata
SlipStream (Fallen Angel Squadron only)(Skull Squadron on request)
Scimitar
Ravens Talon (Viable RP needed)
Rogue Gunboat (Grim Reaper and Soul Reaper Rank Only)
Outcast Destroyer (Soul Reaper Rank Only)
Viable RP excuses will be allowed for Allied ships but will not be condoned the use of until one is given.
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Weapons
Krakan Type 1
Krakan Type 2
Wyrm Type 1
Wyrm Type 2
Inferno Cannon
Supernova antimatter cannon
Adv Debilitator - only 2 allowed
Imp Debilitator - Only 2 allowed
Codename Weapons - 4 on bombers 2 on fighters.
no looted weapons allowed
no nomads allowed
Code:
1) fight for the glory of RoS and don't desecrate our name
2) Do not partake in needless battle
3) kill all enemy's in your path
4) RP as a ruthless pirate i don't want any mercy shown to our enemy's
5) Follow the rules of the server and the clan if you don't i wont hesitate to punish you or even banish you from the clan and inform a admin of your wrong doing
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this is a updated version of our status
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now il bring the part about not trying, we have tried and made alot of effort on the forum and in here alot of the things we have done are scattered everywhere. but what i will tell you is we have went through the public decree many a time. and have sorted our things immediately after words.
let me show you the thread that was released as soon as we began here. this thread is in terms very much like what you see in the faction request threads we took every pointer and flame here and worked on everything to the point we were atleast i believe accepted here.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6946
thats the link to our last little court room rabble, when we began here. so as you can see we have already been told alot of things on what to do.
EDIT: i am however going to expand our description a great deal, and add a little more info here and there
RoS feedback - bluntpencil2001 - 04-05-2008
Rules 2, 3 and 5 of the code contradict each other.
RoS feedback - Lohingren - 04-05-2008
ah well kind of yes kind of no. we ain't no trouble makers (or atleast not alot anyway) but if someone wants to start one in our home we shant let anyone cross. yes semi contradictory
though indeed i am taking the don't run from battle one.... because sometimes it is needed. and sometimes even if people try to start a fight.... we tend to just ignore them
RoS feedback - McNeo - 04-05-2008
Being a "Corsair" sotospeak, I know you may view my opinions with biasness, which is there is a high amount.
However, I will say this. I am quite confused by your shiplist. Perhaps I haven't read up, but I see no reason for a few ships on there.
Quote:Ships and Equipment Allowed:
Sabre (issued on joining)
Falcata
Odin (Epigoni Squadron only)
Thor (Epigoni Squadron only)
SlipStream (Fallen Angel Squadron only)(Skull Squadron on request
Scimitar
Ravens Talon (on Request)
Blood Dragon (on Request)
Blood Dragon Bomber (On Request)
Blood Dragon Gunboat (Grim Reaper Rank only - On Request Only)
Rogue Gunboat (Grim Reaper and Soul Reaper Rank Only)
Outcast Destroyer (Soul Reaper Rank Only)
Those highlighted in bold type are those I would like to be supported with reasoning to be there. I will predict a possible line of arguement, which would be that they are your allies. In which case, the Eagle would be on everyone's shiplist, more or less, as both sides of the war have access to factions which use the Eagle exclusively, in terms of NPCs.
I will give my reasoning for each of these ships:
Hessian ships - They are produced for the Elite of their faction, usually found as wingleaders of squadrons in Omega 15. I dont see why, even as close allies, they would be prioritised for Outcasts aswell.
Ravens Talon - Yes, its true that it is a blackmarket ship. however, this entitles both sides to fly the ship, and I find it distasteful to see this. Whats more, would one fly a blackmarket ship, likely costing more credits, than one that is homegrown?
Blood Dragon ships - Hidden from the outside, passed down to siblings like an ancient Katana followed a family line through the ages in Japan. I do not see why they would be manufactured for Outcasts, with which the Dragons have a merely mild relationship with, despite their official status as allies.
This is my reasoning. Feel free to poke holes;).
RoS feedback - bluntpencil2001 - 04-05-2008
Oh, the ship list is far too big, I think...
Outcast ships are pretty darn good... you could stick to them and still have no weaknesses(probably allowing the Rogue or Hacker gunboat, though). Hessian ships aren't really needed, and Dragon ships, I feel, is too far out.
EDIT: McNeo beat me to it.
RoS feedback - Reverend Del - 04-05-2008
Firstly I'm going to point out that the Outcasts, which you are, have their own range of vessels, but you do seem to be using a full selection of ships from your allies, were any new faction to do the same they would be asked to restrict their ship list.
Secondly it has been noted that a member of your faction has been flying a ship which according to his rank in your status he is not eligible to fly, can you answer why this is so?
RoS feedback - Unseelie - 04-05-2008
What's the functional difference between the three squadrons?
And, when you say in your goals
Quote:To punish all sinners and to kill all who have the power or plan on waging another war to save human kind from itself that is the goal of the reapers so that no longer will human take part in meaningless warYou mean what, exactly? Sounds alot like a Sirius police, which doesn't fit with the RoS rp as I've seen it.
Bit of grammar:
10 years before the coalition war 10 pilots were trained and biologically enhanced to counteract the Coalition threat, codenamed Fallen Angels. About a year before the sleeper ships were launched to the Sirius Sector these pilots vanished; some say that they were sick of all the fighting and decided to let the fates decide the fate of humanity. 500 years later the descendants of these pilots have returned, led by their archon, Lohingren, descendant of the leader of the fallen angels. On arrival in the Sirius Sector these men recruited pilots from all over the sector: from house corporations to Corsairs and bought their equipment from the black market to satisfy the needs of these pilots. They are now known as the Reapers of Sirius
you mean 800 years?
And, why Reapers of Sirius?
RoS feedback - Lohingren - 04-05-2008
well bud let me explain these ones.
the hessian ships are for epigoni for a very good reason they as you most likely already know where a completely different faction all together. which then merged with us after a short period of time. theyre RP is all explained on theyre storied in the rp threads.
the blood dragons however are a case of a great deal of RP shared with the novapg unto which they granted us the use of 10 of theyre vessels. which we have not used very many of as i am sure you are most aware. being on the opposing side. we havent used much.
ravens talon well in my honest opinion we dont have many. i personally dont like the ship, but a few people do like it a great deal. and i do not see the harm in doing a 1 in very many ships.
i see the point you make though and most of our ships are indeed sabres but i dont see the point in keeping it strictly to the letter every step of the way its a large mod after all... and many ships dont get used in it.
but that is my own view.
as you said if we had every other civi ship on there ........ we would have a essay to write.
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EDIT
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As for Deadpool he is a special case. which i do not prevent from happening from time to time. but that destroyer is limited to my permission anyway, he is also flying a sabre mostly now.
as for the 800 years blecht news to me i thought it was only 500 years or so my bad.
RoS feedback - [RoS]silent_assasin82 - 04-05-2008
Ah well get some new holes to poke bud cause we can use these ships in RP. Without breaking rules so it is possible to use the. And the RT a favourite among pirates. And also note the original RoS are Not OC we were taken in by the OC. And another thing Raemus "Lohingren" Hikari
and Ravarius "Silent_Assassin" Hikari. We are Kusari born so we do have BD relatives.
RoS feedback - bluntpencil2001 - 04-05-2008
The relationship with the Blood Dragons is really closer than it should be, especially considering that members of both factions are members in both... it could cause accusations of bending the RP so that they can illogically share each others' ships.
For instance, the Blood Dragons are supposed to find the Outcasts distasteful... I doubt this would change quickly.