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is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - casero - 04-22-2012
I don't think it's just as easy as to say "Hey these people don't let me pass through their space, I'll go to war with them!" I don't remember Liberty and Bretonia declaring war to them, just making sure a Military force don't pass throught their space, like any house would do with any foreign military force.
is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - JayDee Kasane - 04-22-2012
As above sayed and more above. CR disbanned, so no-one who actually do politics. No House wants CR warships passing throu their capitals sure. and CR main territory are not a House space. So CR should not be in Houses anyway, exept trade or something like that. but no war. no indie lolwut war.
is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - Jansen - 04-22-2012
' Wrote:Bretonia and Liberty decided to become hostile to the CR. It's fair game if the CR retaliate. Like Haggis pointed out, the SCRA offered shelter to the CR that wanted to continue to play after the disband. There's no problem with it.
When exactly did Liberty or Bretonia become hostile to the CR? As much as I remember not a single fight between them and the Colonials happened.
The CR infocard, even though its still terribly outdated, also says something different, both Liberty and Bretonia arent listed as hostile there, so the diplomacy with those shouldnt count as 'at war'.
Outcasts and Gallics should be the only ones listed as enemies now.
is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - Rommie - 04-22-2012
' Wrote:You're saying they're at war, and some of them can engage if they feel like it.
Thing about war, it means I can engage each and all CR that I run across. All of them are to be treated as hostile.
So I want to know if the houses are at war, not if some people may have tenous justification to put their RP above the ID they're carrying at any given moment.
' Wrote:I don't think it's just as easy as to say "Hey these people don't let me pass through their space, I'll go to war with them!" I don't remember Liberty and Bretonia declaring war to them, just making sure a Military force don't pass throught their space, like any house would do with any foreign military force.
' Wrote:When exactly did Liberty or Bretonia become hostile to the CR? As much as I remember not a single fight between them and the Colonials happened.
The CR infocard, even though its still terribly outdated, also says something different, both Liberty and Bretonia arent listed as hostile there, so the diplomacy with those shouldnt count as 'at war'.
Outcasts and Gallics should be the only ones listed as enemies now.
' Wrote:In addition, the Republic of Liberty and the Kingdom of Bretonia are issuing a notice of eviction against the Colonial Republic from within our house space. The Republic of Liberty has been saddened by the lack of cooperation and respect shown by the Colonial Republic, as well as their continuous breaches of multiple motions and reliefs ordered upon them by our judicial system. The Kingdom of Bretonia has also experienced problems with the Colonial Republic, namely multiple subversive wars being waged against them by the Colonial Republic in the recent past, as well as continued attacks against key allies of the Bretonian war effort against the Kingdom of Gallia.
Due to these repeated transgressions against both our houses by the Colonial Republic, we are jointly issuing an order of eviction. Any =CR= vessels, including those belonging to its trading arm, found breaking this order will be subject to termination. The Kingdom of Bretonia and the Republic of Liberty are standing together on this issue.
- Harrison McRemitz, Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs
So. Bretonia and Liberty are going to shoot at any ship carrying a Colonial ID/IFF. Military, Civilian, doesn't matter.
However, the previous government did not issue any sort of combat order/statement/whatever that would bring the Colonial Republic to war with Bretonia and/or Liberty on their side. The actual order I gave, though I can't find it right now, was that all Colonial ships (military and civilian) stay out of both Bretonia and Liberty.
My guess is that if that bomber is part of the Coalition division, he can be shot to pieces. If he isn't, he can be shot to pieces, and reported.
Make what you want of it.
is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - Ursus - 04-22-2012
I assumed the eviction order was voided after =CR= disbanded and reparations were made. Bret NPCs aren't hostile to CR or anything, and my rep to them is still neutral/positive from the bribe. So I figured it was just talk-talk that went nowhere.
is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - TheOrangeButterfly - 04-23-2012
Wasn't mentioned but kusari is still at war with CR until their new faction government contacts us ofc.
is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - NoMe - 04-23-2012
hello
if I understand three sectors are at war with colonial remnant!
why exactly? Is this possible in few word
is it just for the official faction =CR= or for any ship with ID/iff
is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - TheOrangeButterfly - 04-23-2012
For kusari it's any cr ship/id/iff. They actually declared war on us, then later tried to retract it. Nope. The new cr can talk to us though, provided your "we couped those old people" is somewhere in there.
is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - Rommie - 04-23-2012
' Wrote:I assumed the eviction order was voided after =CR= disbanded and reparations were made. Bret NPCs aren't hostile to CR or anything, and my rep to them is still neutral/positive from the bribe. So I figured it was just talk-talk that went nowhere.Which is why I strongly suggested the new factions to concentrate on one aspect of the NPC faction at a time. The Military branch wouldn't really take that much heat. A new, completely separate, and completely not visible ingame government would of had an easier time. Trying to resurrect the old faction as it was means that its problems will resurrect with it as well.
But why would anyone listen to what I say.:mellow:
is Colonial at war with Bretonia? - AeternusDoleo - 04-23-2012
' Wrote:So. Bretonia and Liberty are going to shoot at any ship carrying a Colonial ID/IFF. Military, Civilian, doesn't matter."Any =CR= vessels, including those belonging to its trading arm, found breaking this order will be subject to termination."
However, the previous government did not issue any sort of combat order/statement/whatever that would bring the Colonial Republic to war with Bretonia and/or Liberty on their side. The actual order I gave, though I can't find it right now, was that all Colonial ships (military and civilian) stay out of both Bretonia and Liberty.
My guess is that if that bomber is part of the Coalition division, he can be shot to pieces. If he isn't, he can be shot to pieces, and reported. Make what you want of it.
=CR= is no more. There is a new faction forming under the tag CR| I believe. Following the letter of the declaration, the reformed faction is NOT a faction-non-grata in Bretonia or Liberty, unless their governments decide otherwise.
The part that broke off and has joined the SCRA had better be using the Coalition ID for that purpose. They want to be a part of the Coalition? Take the ID. Don't like the resulting technerf? Sux2BU. Rules apply equal to everyone in that regard.