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Introduction of SOB - Xoria - 06-18-2008
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to have regular Lane Hackers set as Friendly, and The Lane Hackers set as allied. Plus, allied status is something that will require actual negotiations. The Lane Hackers have much closer ties to BLS than any other Outcasts, and I seriously doubt that you will get any diplomatic stance with us that is better than what you offer to BLS. And if you go to war with BLS, you will probably also be going to war with The Lane Hackers, because we support their monopoly of the Cardamine trade.
On a completely separate issue. I encourage your group to join commercial player factions for any non-Outcast trading that you conduct. I firmly believe that pirates should also conduct lawful trading under separate characters in order to set a good roleplaying example for traders, and give their pirate brethren some much needed trader roleplaying support. Most of those factions do not care what you use your credits for. And don't all join the same one, spread it around some and support the commercial factions as a whole.
Introduction of SOB - Reverend Del - 06-18-2008
Similar to the Lane Hackers, the Liberty Rogues will be a tad miffed if our regular BLS donations of Cardamine are being interrupted.
Secondly I do so hope your going to ask nicely about those Rogue Gunboats, we aren't a rich faction and what tech we do have we would like to ensure is going to the right folks. (Asking nicely should be all it takes.)
Other than that, looks good.
Introduction of SOB - Boss - 06-19-2008
I...I feel....So happy....Someone named a faction after me...
Looks good to my untrained eye.
Introduction of SOB - Honestic - 06-19-2008
Del and Xoria got a point here, if you enter in war with BLS, you would be fighting a whole "legion" of cardamine dependent factions. Unless of course, you plan to take over their business and become the new cardamine supplying cartel... Personally i don't see like either way... We don't need more hostilities between Outcasts.
Introduction of SOB - ivr56 - 06-19-2008
Like a Civil War within Malta. Between the people who are pro for exporting Cardimine to people who are against it
Intresting Concept
One more OC fraction couldnt hurt.
Introduction of SOB - Zapp - 06-19-2008
Yeah, if you fight the BLS, you'd find a lot of the OC allies (throw GC in there too, cuz they would side with us) helping US, not you. And so you know, we're all fighters/bombers, except for my LH GS, so if you do fight us, go easy on the caps.
Introduction of SOB - Eppy - 06-19-2008
I think the issue is a lot of their diplomacy is cut-and-paste from the 101st status, right down to the listing of tags and the categories. A bit of tweaking is in order. I still like 'em, though.
Introduction of SOB - RickJames - 06-19-2008
This seems a bit odd.
Neutral
The Angels, Blue Lotus Syndicate [BLS], Queen Carina's Royal Fleet [QCxx), Bretonian Police Authority BPA), Nova Power Gen (NovaPG), The IND [IND], Temporary Autonomous Zoners [TAZ], Mandalorians [M], The Keepers Keepers, Jupiter Guild [\JG/]
Neutral to the Queens Navy and Bretonia Police?
I'm pretty sure no House Police/Navy/Military would be neutral to a pirate/drug-smuggler organization.
I could see under the radar support for House Unlawfuls by competing Houses. Such as Rheinland supporting Liberty Rouges. Bretonia support of Blood Dragons. But that would not be an official stance for a House institution. imo
Just some input on faction politics.
Introduction of SOB - Eppy - 06-19-2008
Quite wrong. All of the Outcast factions are quietly neutral to the Bretonian military and police on account of multiple enemy-of-my-enemy relationships and some rather profitable economic situations we've found ourselves in in regards to each other. You're a bit behind the times, mate, this was worked over months ago.
Introduction of SOB - obnoxious1 - 06-19-2008
All suggestion, comments & corrections are greatly appreciated !!
Working on some re-visions now. Will be contacting allies, friendlies & such soon to confirm relations & make changes needed.
Quote:On a completely separate issue. I encourage your group to join commercial player factions for any non-Outcast trading that you conduct. I firmly believe that pirates should also conduct lawful trading under separate characters in order to set a good roleplaying example for traders, and give their pirate brethren some much needed trader roleplaying support. Most of those factions do not care what you use your credits for. And don't all join the same one, spread it around some and support the commercial factions as a whole.
most of us are already doing this. 90% of the group's 2nd characters are lawful traders. Some are trying to join various trade factions & groups as well. As you stated, it helps get a better idea of total game structure & will help in our role play abilities.
Quote:Yeah, if you fight the BLS, you'd find a lot of the OC allies (throw GC in there too, cuz they would side with us) helping US, not you. And so you know, we're all fighters/bombers, except for my LH GS, so if you do fight us, go easy on the caps.
Have no fear Zap.. we aint near ready to overthrow the syndicate, Thus us why we wish to remain neutral with BLS at this time. We intend to stay out of BLS buisness for now but don't expect us to help BLS with any cardamine issues, unless it's a fat paycheck involved, probably wont happened. SOB's pilots are under orders not to fire on BLS unless fired upon. (maybe should move status to hostile? suggestions?)
Quote:Del and Xoria got a point here, if you enter in war with BLS, you would be fighting a whole "legion" of cardamine dependent factions. Unless of course, you plan to take over their business and become the new cardamine supplying cartel... Personally i don't see like either way... We don't need more hostilities between Outcasts.
Actually, we dont plan to take over, just over throw or persuade BLS to give control back to the Maltese Government Body & let them control it with all of us (Outcasts) supporting them. Making more reasonable rates for smugglers which we are thinking would possibly entice the factions dealing in Cardi to join our cause for their economic state.
Quote:Secondly I do so hope your going to ask nicely about those Rogue Gunboats, we aren't a rich faction and what tech we do have we would like to ensure is going to the right folks. (Asking nicely should be all it takes.)Be assured, we would come to you before making any type of purchase. Will also be in contact soon to try to make some diplomatic structures to form a mutually agreeable alliance.
Quote:On diplomacy, what about Gateway or other Bretonian traders?Will be in contact to discuss possible contracts in this matter
We (SOB) would also like to thank Epyon for the help he has given us sofar.
We may have rushed things a lil bit & have some things to work out, But wanted all to be aware that we are a group & intend to stay that way regardless if we receive faction status. We just enjoy the game & the server & hope to add to it :D