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RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - Mark_Brown - 05-31-2013
(05-31-2013, 09:16 PM)kikatsu Wrote: From the communications channel that may be relevant to this current situation.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=99373
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=99522
Evidence accepted, but do note.
Blackpool Administration Staff has no access IN RP to this communications channel
No BPA) post or Bret War Cabinat was made to Blackpool to find out the issues of the destruction of said Trader ship.
Still OORP kill as we INRP was not made aware of this complaint. Cause lets face it, the guns are computerised and fire at will. How was we to know about the death?
- Aiden.
RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - US| - 05-31-2013
We put considerable time, effort and credits into this base too and feel that the removal of this base without consultation or discussion was totally unwaranted. Summer knew we were involved too and could have taken the time to express his concerns to us too. There should have been some RP given first if it was the case that they were not happy with the manner of administration .
RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - Hawk - 05-31-2013
(05-31-2013, 09:13 PM)Mark_Brown Wrote: @ Hawk, that's the reason for this post Hawk.
No RP was made, it was a total OORP kill
No Complaints, No evidence shown, No RP at all in fact.
VOTE FOR BLACKPOOL!
That's not quite what I meant to ask. Has there been any attempt to contact the Bretonian Government in RP and ask them to explain why the base was destroyed. I'm kind of thinking that should happen before admins are asked to get involved.
RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - jonnaffen747 - 05-31-2013
I'll answer for Mark_Brown ,
Yes acctualy there should be an inRP post about what happend, but why? The base got killed ooRP and it was just 1 guy involved. SummerMcLovin not the whole government aslong he don't gets me an evidence that the war cabinet has voted about it's destruction as he said on Skype :
SKYPE LOG :
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[21:20:19] SummerMcLovin: Exactly what has happened recently. I was not the only one involved alright, the War Cabinet made a decision. Just I had to be the one to do the action
[21:22:21] SummerMcLovin: There were others discussing it with me. I am not naming them directly - I'll be handling the fallout
[21:24:25] John | Luke Walker: Quote it or its not applicable.
[21:24:54] SummerMcLovin: I don't need to justify myself here. Disbelieve me if you wish, I still bear the brunt either way
[21:26:45] John | Luke Walker: Then this don't counts.
And no RP Post was made before it's destruction Reason :
I could Change the Password of the base so he can't destroy it he telled me.
-Luke
RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - Havok - 05-31-2013
(05-31-2013, 09:29 PM)jonnaffen747 Wrote: SKYPE LOG :
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[21:20:19] SummerMcLovin: Exactly what has happened recently. I was not the only one involved alright, the War Cabinet made a decision. Just I had to be the one to do the action
[21:22:21] SummerMcLovin: There were others discussing it with me. I am not naming them directly - I'll be handling the fallout
[21:24:25] John | Luke Walker: Quote it or its not applicable.
[21:24:54] SummerMcLovin: I don't need to justify myself here. Disbelieve me if you wish, I still bear the brunt either way
[21:26:45] John | Luke Walker: Then this don't counts.
And no RP Post was made before it's destruction Reason :
I could Change the Password of the base so he can't destroy it he telled me.
-Luke
Seeing as you can neither prove or disprove what the War Cabinet has done, you cannot claim it as "inapplicable".
RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - jonnaffen747 - 05-31-2013
He could easily Quote it but then the Problem with the ooRP would be still not out of the world no RP post was made before reason : I could Change the Password. ?
RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - Thyrzul - 05-31-2013
As a relevant participant in the flow of events, let me have a few words here.
The defense platforms of the base Blackpool Defense Annex first time shot down the [C]-CLT-Valse.d'Amelie on 28th of May. My vessel has been arriving from the direction of Birmingham station, and shooting down my transport was so quick and was such a surprise to me that the only screenshot I could take was the death screen offering respawn, barely anything I can put up as evidence. The second incident occurred yesterday, when I arrived from the opposite direction. As soon as I arrived at the other end of the jump tunnel, the platforms opened fire on me, and shoot me down. This time however I was able to take screenshots.
Both times one of the accounts related to the Luke Walker character was present and was in the close vicinity of the station. Both times I've checked the base after each incident with my [C]-Pierre.LaFlamme. character if it has been a glitch or reputation issue, both times found the base neutral to that character. Both times I've spotted the station with my trade vessel after each incidents I found the base friendly to that character.
Once I've got my visual evidences I've taken inRp action, describing the situation as clear as possible, despite having only evidence to prove the second incident. The relevant thread can be found here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=99522
I believe he set the station's defense mode to all hostile and then back, and I also believe that what he did he did that on purpose, and purely for the enjoyment of seeing others getting blown up by the station's automated defense.
By these statements and evidences, I accuse player and community member jonnaffen747 of the following:
The defense platforms of the base Blackpool Defense Annex first time shot down the [C]-CLT-Valse.d'Amelie on 28th of May. My vessel has been arriving from the direction of Birmingham station, and shooting down my transport was so quick and was such a surprise to me that the only screenshot I could take was the death screen offering respawn, barely anything I can put up as evidence. The second incident occurred yesterday, when I arrived from the opposite direction. As soon as I arrived at the other end of the jump tunnel, the platforms opened fire on me, and shoot me down. This time however I was able to take screenshots.
Both times one of the accounts related to the Luke Walker character was present and was in the close vicinity of the station. Both times I've checked the base after each incident with my [C]-Pierre.LaFlamme. character if it has been a glitch or reputation issue, both times found the base neutral to that character. Both times I've spotted the station with my trade vessel after each incidents I found the base friendly to that character.
Once I've got my visual evidences I've taken inRp action, describing the situation as clear as possible, despite having only evidence to prove the second incident. The relevant thread can be found here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=99522
I believe he set the station's defense mode to all hostile and then back, and I also believe that what he did he did that on purpose, and purely for the enjoyment of seeing others getting blown up by the station's automated defense.
By these statements and evidences, I accuse player and community member jonnaffen747 of the following:
- Trolling
- Exploitation of game mechanics
RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - Xelon - 05-31-2013
Right the War Cabinet has made this decission in unision.
Marcus, ndk071, Summer and myself made the decision concerning the Base and it's fate.
This was not a lone decision made by Summer but just executed by him.
All the blame that you are loading onto him is unjustified and should be sent to the Factionleaders of involved factions.
To make that clear.
RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - Havok - 05-31-2013
(05-31-2013, 09:39 PM)Xelon Wrote: Right the War Cabinet has made this decission in unision.
Marcus, ndk071, Summer and myself made the decision concerning the Base and it's fate.
This was not a decision made by Summer but just executed by him.
All the blame that you are loading onto him is unjustified and should be sent to the Factionleaders of involved factions.
To make that clear.
This. Taken into account what you planned to do with the faction of selling it and putting the condition that it be set hostile by the new owner to anyone that doesnt pay, and the previous incidents indicated by Thryzul , I agree with what he and Xelon have said.
RE: Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF - jonnaffen747 - 05-31-2013
(05-31-2013, 09:41 PM)Ndk071 Wrote:(05-31-2013, 09:39 PM)Xelon Wrote: Right the War Cabinet has made this decission in unision.
Marcus, ndk071, Summer and myself made the decision concerning the Base and it's fate.
This was not a decision made by Summer but just executed by him.
All the blame that you are loading onto him is unjustified and should be sent to the Factionleaders of involved factions.
To make that clear.
This. Taken into account what you planned to do with the faction of selling it and putting the condition that it be set hostile by the new owner to anyone that doesnt pay, and the previous incidents indicated by Thryzul , I agree with what he and Xelon have said.
First of all I wouldnt sell a Core 4 base for 1,5 Billion SC that would be dump. I would try to sell them for 12 Billion okay?
And as I had said, I wont sell the base without summers permission (this was before of ist destruction) and i was just joking with burak he can confirm this for you.