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Current Order Status - Rodent - 04-11-2011
Give me a month. You might go on about us having had enough time, but the new HC has just recently settled in and this thread gives us insight.
I'll just ask you to be merciless with feedback in the meanwhile, anything that is out of place in the faction or your interactions with it,let us know. We will see if nothing changes by then.
Current Order Status - Jeremy Hunter - 04-11-2011
I'll give you a month and two weeks.
Good luck Rod.
PS Now can I move the Ghost Eye to Strudel land?
PPS Good night. I've done enough forumlancing today.
Current Order Status - Anonymous User - 04-11-2011
' Wrote:I'll give you a month and two weeks.
Good luck Rod.
PS Now can I move the Ghost Eye to Strudel land?,
dont think they want to have our caps in their space.
bad idea if you ask me
but finally it is up to rod
Current Order Status - Jeremy Hunter - 04-11-2011
' Wrote:dont think they want to have our caps in their space.
bad idea if you ask me
Meh.
Bering it is then.
I'll move Axel there and use Tbay to be Hale's pain in the ass.
NOW, good night.
*turns off browser for phone*
Current Order Status - Tommeh - 04-11-2011
' Wrote:@Tommeh:Ohh, wow then I am just imagining, cause I specificly remember [LN] faction feedback being active mostly cause of same things. And where can you compare RM indie playerbase with Order one? Order has at least double more, if not triple. Plus House Military faction such as RM has a lot more members then Order, but you know what is so interesting, if Order| has been so bad for so long time, why the heck feedback thread is practicly dead?
First, please show me where I flame all other factions. Link me to their respective feedback threads and show me specific posts. I only "flame" as you say that what In my opinion is not right. Aha you cant show me any posts? Lets move on then. Now, you will notice that the 101st as you mentioned them, is getting some complaints, I have even been complaining myself, but it is not nearly as many complaints as at the Order|. Do I have a personal issue with the Order|? Why yes I do, do you know why? Because you are doing it wrong.
Secondly, you not being able to control your indies? Why is it just you? I dont see complaints in the [LN] feedback, I dont see complaints in the [RM] feedback. Blaming everything on your indies is not setting a right example. You have not been setting a right example since a long while ago, and you still continue going down this road. "Things need to be fixed in a week?" Dont make me laugh, these problems with the Order have been going on over half a year and you know it.
Thirdly, yes I keep going on about fun and how people take this game seriously. But you have to face one harsh truth, people (that I have spoken to, or me personally) have not had fun with Order|, the kind of fun and behavior that fits an official faction, in a long while.
You keep ranting on about how everyone is flaming Order| because of personal grudges, hatred, trolling, whining blablablabla. You keep ranting on about how you cant control anything, how you dont have time, not enough interested people to start a change blablabla. Now, Im telling you, as are many others here, that you need to take a step back and realize the following: Its not the world, its you.
Why no one complained, in entire year or so that I have been leading Order| I got what, 2,3 minor complains,
no one said that something is wrong, how should I know then?
Yes, some problems existed before, few people complained, we started working on changes, and I haven't received complains for long time.
Other thing is you, when person has personal grudges with my faction I tend not take his complains to srsly, as no matter what we do, people always find something to complain about. Like you do now.
But whatever.....
' Wrote:This is EXACTLY what every single dictator in Earth history said just before the fall...
Allow to take over???? ORDER IS NOT YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY! You are but ONE player in Order.
You have no more rights then any other Order player,they are not enemy's who're trying to take over dude,they are Order players as much as you are.And "who is willing??"...please don't make me started,please.
Order is fortunate enough to have many people with good initiatives and ideas,they are just being put aside all this time.
They spoke-look at that poll,and this is not the first time you can hear this,you just didn't listen when you should listen.
I don't know should you step down or not but that poll is screaming man...2/3 of the people disagree with you.Why do you and your guys think you're the only one capable to lead Order?
You and your guys had full year dude...entire year to make Order stronger then it was when Kelt was leading...Order is now weaker then ever in last 2 years since i'm around.You all failed.All of you.Restrictions you forced upon Order are killing our faction.TCG| tried to play differently and make some changes,you FR-5'd us for that.What are you going to do now-FR-5 70% of Order?
And please don't start again with that "grudge and hatery" rubbish,i'm just ONE voice in that poll.
Further more,this whole thing doesn't concern TCG| whole that much-we have our own agenda and our own planes but that doesn't mean that i-we can't speak our minds here,we are all Order after all.
@Jeremy,TCG| will never be locked or involved in any kind of power struggle for anything,your prediction on that is quite dark...i see no reason why would any Order group do such thing...unless people get power-hungry in virtual reality,and that is logical absurd right there.Order| should be Order| and that's it,we don't have to ruin entire faction just because few leaders refuse to step down.We should be able to change leaders not entire faction.
And yes,that last remark about TCG| and God was not necessary mate,Waratah is not that scary at all when you get to know him,he's all heart&soul.:)
Look man, I didn't FR 5 you alone jesus christ, entire OHC agreed to do it, and to remind you 2 non Order| OHC members agreed aswell.
I am not gonna go in discussion again, how you did things, everyone in Order knows that.
Quote:Allow to take over???? ORDER IS NOT YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY! You are but ONE player in Order.And I was not talking about entire Order npc faction, I was talking about Order|, where no you or anyone else outside faction has rights to tell us what should we do.
And about the poll....I don't care if there is 3346435 another ones being exactly the same, cause you know why?
This Community always seeks scapegoat, this time is Order, and no matter what you do or tell, people don't change thier attidudes.
Last time it was Omicroners, everyone flamed them so much, how their RP is wrong, they are ruining Zoner RP, oorp caps, and if someone made a poll about them too, I can bet it would be pretty much the same.
And guess what, they are still here, still play the game and have fun. People forgot about it and moved on.
Before Zoners 101st was the worst one, treating indies bad etc.
And again they still exist and play here, no matter how much hatred is being thrown at them.
But meh, it's not worth this hassle anymore, this is getting tiresome, and I am not here to worry about that sort of crap, and I won't argue anymore. I give up, it's up to Rod, what he wants to do with Order| and this post will be my last one in this thread.
Current Order Status - [Cerberus] Illusive Man - 04-11-2011
' Wrote:Give me a month. You might go on about us having had enough time, but the new HC has just recently settled in and this thread gives us insight.
I'll just ask you to be merciless with feedback in the meanwhile, anything that is out of place in the faction or your interactions with it,let us know. We will see if nothing changes by then.
I doubt it.
Current Order Status - Jeremy Hunter - 04-11-2011
' Wrote:I doubt it.
..............
I am willing to give them a chance.
If they fail, then great, new leader? What then?
Jack, just try to help them before completly condeming them.
One last chance?
Im willing to give them two extra weeks.
I've been trolled, flamed, backstabbed, forgotten.
Yet I still am here, willing to give them one last chance.
Just one last one Jack.
Current Order Status - Echo 7-7 - 04-11-2011
I think you should give them one last chance. Say, three weeks should do it.
If not... disband Order| and do the Faction from scratch.
Current Order Status - Jeremy Hunter - 04-11-2011
' Wrote:I think you should give them one last chance. Say, three weeks should do it.
If not... disband Order| and do the Faction from scratch.
I disagree.
As much as that might work, too many people put time,and effort, years, into it.
If this happens, then fine.
I will create Bs| again.
Current Order Status - Dave Synk - 04-11-2011
Disbanding ? No. Re-organize it ? Yes. Put people that have more time to do this, and also change the ways of the Order, not having a siege in Minor and fighting nonsense with BHG and LN. I always had the perspective of the Order as a Sirius-wide faction. With hundreds of agents all around it who have the power to control every move in the houses, since they have the role to protect humankind against the Nomads. Apparently the "Sirius-wide idea" is stuck to Liberty and Minor, and perhaps Delta sometimes.