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How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - schlurbi - 11-05-2010

I'd love to see what happens if Outcasts block the Way from Kusari to Gamma.:P

Also, Dusty is right. Outcasts haven't done much wrong so far. The Leaders of the Outcast Factions actually try that it stays like that. If I bring a Problem to Jameson he tries to solve it and not to blow it up.


How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - Dusty Lens - 11-05-2010

Dear god don't give Jameson external validation!!!!!!


How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - schlurbi - 11-05-2010

Too late I think.

* schlurbi suggests Jameson to block Kusari.


How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - casero - 11-05-2010

Samura docking in crete.
SOB "NAP" with BAF.
MR in peace with Bret Lawfuls.
OCs threating the LRs.
bd working with Privateers and outcasts (in the past)
Zoners allying with SCRA (or maybe allying is not the perfect word for it, common enemy like it more?).
KNF and Corsairs shooting BAF.
BAF and Outcasts shooting KNF.

What I meant for double standards is that one person said that the corsairs didn't assume their weakness and powergamed a way out of it, and saying that the other factions have to live with their weakness, however, the outcast weakness (just as an example, as for being the corsairs biggest enemy) is the adiction to cardamine, and sticking to it.

While the "weakness" of one faction depends on no one but themselves, the other faction is forced to depend on zoners, and when they found a way out of depending from zoners, people claimed powergaming and said they must stick to their lore. That's the double standard.

And adding to that, not all the zoners are at war with the corsairs, and that the zoners weren't the only ones providing food to the corsairs (Junkers if I'm right), but still Corsairs are powergamers.

No, I'm not accusing the Outcasts of doing something wrong, I'm saying that FOR ME, their weakness is not comparable to the Corsairs' weakness, and that the corsairs didn't get away from their lore, they just cutted one of their providers off the game. (Same as the Outcasts did once with the Liberty Rogues, if I'm not wrong).




How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - schlurbi - 11-05-2010

Quote:OCs threating the LRs.
Uh? What are you talking about? Apart from random Lolwuts (which we are ignoring and then shooting down) that don't have much Influence (like nothing) there are no Outcasts threatening us xD


How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - globalplayer-svk - 11-05-2010

and last thing...

strange is, that lot people here complaing about why and how will corsiars change their rp... while noone is saying that zoners by refusing the food deliveries, and ignoring the food deliveries the whole last year (or maybe half) also changed their rp....
and saying that the food was delivered in rp(without any player ships ) then the same we can say on corsairs that they are now farming on crete in rp....
requesting from corsairs to stay in their core rp, taht they need food suplies from zoners while not requesting from zoners to jump to their whales and deliver lot of food is what?.... prefering one sidE? or ???
this is game.. multi media online roleplay game... action of each group affect more or less the group right near...

casero, i typed something similar:)


How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - DAnvilFan - 11-05-2010

' Wrote:and last thing...

strange is, that lot people here complaing about why and how will corsiars change their rp... while noone is saying that zoners by refusing the food deliveries, and ignoring the food deliveries the whole last year (or maybe half) also changed their rp....

Out of curiosity, how many units of goods have Corsair tradeships delivered to the Corsair Enclave on Gran Canaria, or vice versa?

I can't imagine this has only been done in RP.


How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - globalplayer-svk - 11-05-2010

' Wrote:Out of curiosity, how many units of goods have Corsair tradeships delivered to the Corsair Enclave on Gran Canaria, or vice versa?

I can't imagine this has only been done in RP.


hm. i must say that i dont know... but. are we saying that it will die without them?...
thats the big difference for me.
people are saying that corsairs must be depended on zoners, because zoners deliver them food.

but noone is saying to zoners that they must deliver the food to corsairs...

see my point?



How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - Mao - 11-05-2010

' Wrote:No, I'm not accusing the Outcasts of doing something wrong, I'm saying that FOR ME, their weakness is not comparable to the Corsairs' weakness, and that the corsairs didn't get away from their lore, they just cutted one of their providers off the game. (Same as the Outcasts did once with the Liberty Rogues, if I'm not wrong).
True. But this move is affecting other factions and the balance of power that was established by the developers. It would have been alright if they'd only stick to cutting one of the providers but they also want to occupy new territories.

Balance is everything in disco. And we all seen it that letting the players establishing the story isn't working with all the egos and personal ambitions of the players. (not characters)


How a player faction excludes a characteristic of the NPC faction - DAnvilFan - 11-05-2010

Here are the basic arguments as I understand them.

Corsairs in-game started to attack Zoners in-game because Zoners "supposedly" rarely brought food to Crete (in-game).

On the other side we have Corsairs in-game demanding that a second docking ring be built around Gran Canaria because Corsairs are standing in long lines due to traffic.

Now.

How many Corsair vessels in-game have actually brought goods to Gran Canaria and back in the past, say, year?

Do you get where I'm going with this?