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RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - SnakThree - 04-04-2015
Lawfuls saw me having CAU8 Salvager in NY full of Slaves. They didn't stop me.
RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - R.I.P. - 04-04-2015
(04-03-2015, 11:49 PM)Mímir Wrote: No, the bottom line is that if you don't have the skill to fly anything whatsoever, get a Salvager and it will carry you.
Just like how you can always play a Zoner Junker trader and make heaps of credits very easily and with little risk if you lack the imagination to do anything else. I personally hate trading, but of course when I trade I do it in a Junker Salvager because it's just so easy and takes 0 effort (I don't even have to press F3 to dock with lanes, all the profits are based on afk travel through open space, yay).
Would it be possible to get a dev perspective regarding the reasoning behind the Salvager's attributes? Why is it warranted or even needed to have ships that are so drastically different and *better*?
One major reason, it spends a lot of time in very high radiation.
(That is if you are using it for it's intended purpose of mining scrap.)
RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - SnakThree - 04-04-2015
(04-04-2015, 12:42 AM)R.I.P. Wrote:(04-03-2015, 11:49 PM)Mímir Wrote: No, the bottom line is that if you don't have the skill to fly anything whatsoever, get a Salvager and it will carry you.
Just like how you can always play a Zoner Junker trader and make heaps of credits very easily and with little risk if you lack the imagination to do anything else. I personally hate trading, but of course when I trade I do it in a Junker Salvager because it's just so easy and takes 0 effort (I don't even have to press F3 to dock with lanes, all the profits are based on afk travel through open space, yay).
Would it be possible to get a dev perspective regarding the reasoning behind the Salvager's attributes? Why is it warranted or even needed to have ships that are so drastically different and *better*?
One major reason, it spends a lot of time in very high radiation.
(That is if you are using it for it's intended purpose of mining scrap.)
How is that relevant, considering that equipment will fall down quicker than AU8 Salvager using nanos?
RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - Swifty - 04-04-2015
(04-03-2015, 07:52 PM)R.I.P. Wrote:(04-03-2015, 07:34 PM)Hawk Wrote:(09-21-2014, 12:23 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: If you aggressor managed to separate you more than 35k from the nearest base however, then good on him. The only real way to kill a Salvager is if you ensure it's not ~30k away from the nearest base.
Tell that to the countless XA pilots who have downed salvagers in the Jersey debris field.
+1 i have been killed many times by the XA in my Salavger with cap 8. Stop your whining, if you cannot take down a Sally then practice or go pirate an easier target.
Hawk please, Countless XA? The only time i've seen "countless" XA in space was a few months ago, ever since then things went quiet, your argument is invalid.
RIP dude, you died because you had *no idea* how to use your ship, i know because i was your killer and i did it alone, by the way. Don't come in here with "stop your whining" bullcrap if you don't have anything creative to say, because it's not helping at all.
On the topic - The Salvager needs a review, it's definitely overpowered. It's bats need also to get toned down a little bit, and perhaps it's cargo too. Not too much, just a bit.
Now -
(04-03-2015, 08:38 PM)Mímir Wrote: Lyth is right, Hawk is wrong.This.
(04-03-2015, 09:52 PM)Omicega Wrote: >salvager can literally be proven to be imbalanced by simple numbers
>congress & co still try to circlejerk argue against it
ok
And this i totally agree with.
RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - R.I.P. - 04-04-2015
Eh, i am done. nerf it, i could care less honestly.
RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - Jayce - 04-04-2015
If you can't kill a Salvager, you're using the wrong ship. Literally, everyone in this thread who is complaining about the regens is bad, or is flying the incorrect ship for piracy. Small transports are the god ships for piracy right now. I love shooting Salvagers, especially new ones. They turret zoom all the way out, and wonder why they can't hit me with their 500m range guns while I ruin their bootyholes with my 1100m range Charons. :]
Please, for the love of god, just GET GOOD.
RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - R.I.P. - 04-04-2015
(04-04-2015, 01:45 AM)Jayce Wrote: If you can't kill a Salvager, you're using the wrong ship. Literally, everyone in this thread who is complaining about the regens is bad, or is flying the incorrect ship for piracy. Small transports are the god ships for piracy right now. I love shooting Salvagers, especially new ones. They turret zoom all the way out, and wonder why they can't hit me with their 500m range guns while I ruin their bootyholes with my 1100m range Charons. :]
Please, for the love of god, just GET GOOD.
+1000000000000000000000000000000 thank you Jayce!
RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - Jayce - 04-04-2015
Just have to lay down the law, the real talk, the TRUTH OF ALL TRUTHS for all the bads that complain they can't pirate in snubs.
Remember the old adage, everyone.
Snubs are for scrubs.
RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - Omi - 04-04-2015
>tfw even jayce is dumb enough to argue with the numbers
just because the fat clydesdale can kill sallies doesn't mean sallies are on par with their peers [:
RE: Salvager and Raba regen counts: too high? - Omi - 04-04-2015
plus i'd rather not read a ton of +1s from congressmen who couldn't balance their wy out of a scales factory jumping on the back of your post xddd