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Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - Lt.Cmdr.Olsav - 12-12-2006
the x-shuttle turrets on the back are on the inside, so you cant get them to pivot.
Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - marauder - 12-12-2006
Question:
What are the liners?
Are they transports, gunboats or are they cruisers?
At the minute it seems that, weapon mount and equipment mount wise, they're trying to be all three.
Now a luxury liner with all gunboat turrets can rip the shield off and all but destroy a PvP equipped cruiser.
Now normally you'd think the liner would have died, but not when it's got a cruiser shield mounted.
It's like trying to fight a frigate, hard to hit because it's so agile and small, hard to dodge the sheer wall of fire coming at you and almost impossible to drop it's shield before it kills you.
So could we get an agreement as to what the liners are and get their weapon and equipment slots sorted before we end up with nothing but liners flying around?
Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - McNeo - 12-12-2006
I think it should be a gunboat+transport. The reason i think this is because it is meant for the secure holding and/or transportation of cargo, but it doesnt have as larger hold as the other Transports. It makes up for this shortfall in cargo space with superior equipment and guns. This means that no 1 fighter can take it on at any time. It has to be a team effort to take one down. Though I have no idea what the Cruiser sheild is doing there.
all my Opinion on what should be done.
back to coursework :(
Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - Yngen - 12-12-2006
Why don't we severely decrease the power core of the liners? Especially the Luxury liner-its not supposed to be a combat ship so you can make it that one can put gunboat turrets on them but only be able to fire them 2 or 3 times before the juice is gone.
Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - Dab - 12-13-2006
I think I have an idea about the Liner. BTW, the ones with cruiser shields are almost impossible to pirate too.. Not how its supposed to be.
The Luxury Liner currently has 11 turrets, all gunboat class. We need to make the shield gunboat at highest, and 6 gunboat turrets, 5 transport/fighter.
That should fix it up to where it should be.
Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - marauder - 12-13-2006
It's for transporting passangers and VIPs, or prisoners (depends on which one you buy) so they should have transport turrets (class 7) and a transport shield( also class 7).
A container transport can give a player fighter serious grief before succombing and the lux liner only has one turret less so why not?
Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - Dab - 12-13-2006
Lux liner is much harder to hit..
I think it should have some better weaponry than the CT though. It transports VIPs Nobles, officials, etc. It would have some gunboat weaponry. No more than 6 turrets of it, but no less than 3. Also, it needs gunboat shield due to its easy-to-hit shape and the fact that, unlike the CT it can't fire all directions at once. Don't forget about those things too Marauder. In reality it has half the firepower because it can't shoot all turrets in all directions at once.
Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - Nightfall - 12-13-2006
I agree with that, seems to be the proper thing for a liner, both Luxury and Prison one. They're transports, not cruisers.
Also, on the Frigate equipping Battleship Shield... it's not a Battleship, or is it?
edit: oops I didn't see Dab's post. I agree with Marauder's thoughts.
Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - marauder - 12-13-2006
It's easier to hit?
Maybe for a fighter, it certainly isn't for anything the size of a cruiser or bigger.
It's long, thin and narrow, it's able to dodge alot more easily then any transport or train, unless it flys straight or dodges into your fire you have to be right up next to it to hit it.
It doesn't need gunboat turrets, or a gunboat shield, it's not designed to fight capital ships nor is it designed to attack and destroy fighters, it's designed to carry people and fight off pirates long enough to be able to cruise off or until the lane comes back up.
Currently it's an excellant anti-cruiser/destroyer ship which is not what it's designed to be.
Discovery 4.82 Beta features, bugs & suggestions - Dab - 12-13-2006
No its not, but making all transport turrets isn't how its supposed to be used. Trust me. A Liner with only transport turrets is completely defenseless. Only the rookiest fighter can be killed by it. And the LT can dodge more easily than it can. The CT would have more firepower than it even. I say 6/5 or 4/7 Gunboat/Transport turrets. And definitely a gunboat shield. Its LONG. Lot of it to shoot. Just because you might not be able to shoot it easily isn't its fault. It might be that your just not very good at shooting the thing.
Stop trying to nerf something when it out-preforms you.