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RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - Huhuh - 09-03-2013

(09-03-2013, 08:26 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: We shouldn't forget the zoners were at one stage or another somehow combined and united, now they are not.

No they weren't.


RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - Kazinsal - 09-03-2013

(09-03-2013, 08:26 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: We shouldn't forget the zoners were at one stage or another somehow combined and united, now they are not. Loodk they have the shipyards to construct such vessels, how it came to be is something that should be addressed by perhaps the devs, but this is a situation that can be traced to other factions aswell , only were stamping zoners at the moment

You actually have no idea about Zoner lore.

No wonder the ZA needs to drop the Z.


RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - Thyrzul - 09-03-2013

(09-03-2013, 07:25 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Heaven forbid, the Zoner ID does not state it can "only" shoot in self-defense, which is why you CAN shoot anyone you want as long as you have a good story to tell about it.

Zoner ID Wrote:Can attack lawful and unlawful targets in self-defense, to protect another trader, or in defense of Zoner bases.

That's what listed as what a Zoner CAN do. If something is not listed on that ID (or in the rules), you CAN'T do that as a Zoner.

(09-03-2013, 08:26 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: We shouldn't forget the zoners were at one stage or another somehow combined and united, now they are not.

They never were.

(09-03-2013, 08:26 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Look they have the shipyards to construct such vessels, how it came to be is something that should be addressed by perhaps the devs, but this is a situation that can be traced to other factions aswell , only were stamping zoners at the moment

It's been said O74 started as a guard system in an era guard systems popped into the mod without any significant check if they match the lore or not. Since then it lost it's guard status and became lore, but there is still a crapton of work in front of devs to fix the lore gap connected to it and give a plausible explaination on how the shipyard and the shipline have happened.

Of course we are "stamping" Zoners at the moment, this thread is about them. Would you like to adress other factions, go, make an other thread about those factions.



RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - Savas - 09-03-2013

(09-03-2013, 08:26 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: We shouldn't forget the zoners were at one stage or another somehow combined and united, now they are not.

The only semblance of unity among the Zoners was the actual (Now dead) Zoner Alliance, and that was mostly just zonerzoner UN. At no point were the Zoners united, because you know what happens when people unite? Nations with regulations are formed, you know what the Zoners don't really like? Being part of a nation with regulations!


RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - Curios - 09-03-2013

They have no idea about lore or anything like that anyway, explanations are helpless when we're living in the parallel galaxies. Powering up own lore is a usual thing for any faction those days.


RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - Scumbag - 09-03-2013

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Enough, we all know these things but it should be obvious they don't want to give up battleships.

Corvo should be the only zoner cap and we all know it.


RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - Curios - 09-03-2013

Exactly. But I'd go even further and made Corvo SRP only ship with easier approval for Zoner ID.


RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - RedEclipse - 09-03-2013

Zoner caps will remain. Until we will decide with TAZ something.


RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - sindroms - 09-03-2013

How about we add caps to every other faction to even it out?


RE: Proposal: Remove Battleships from the Zoner ID. - Zen_Mechanics - 09-03-2013

There were infact two zoner groups in vanilla, though I never said they were under one banner. Zoners of House space, and zoners of Theta. Now let's leave that aside and let's focus on your "reasoning" - Zoners much like IMG are capable of constructing capital ships, infact I would say more ( granted corsairs ) - Though it is not mentioned in any book or wiki that doesn't mean they can't - much like your precious councial, who stole blue prints of the valor, legit so far, but producing them in masses? talking about capactiy alright - End of story, do not attempt to legitmise this proposal by saying zoners cannot afford it because they can - Thank god your not a dev.
Have a bad day t.