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+----- Thread: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback (/showthread.php?tid=92586)
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - TheSauron - 04-23-2018
Why?
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - TheShooter36 - 04-23-2018
(04-23-2018, 09:00 PM)Fordm Wrote: How desperate do you have to be for blues to gank an unarmed vessel full of injured people? At least put some effort into your RP.
I was hoping for some quality RP. And I get this. Stupid me.
Quote:[23.04.2018 19:32:40] CFV-Saturnius: mns-St.alda in my scanner
[23.04.2018 19:33:19] MNS-St.Alda: ?: This is captain Elisabetta Cerra of the MNS-St.Alda hospital ship. Please hold your fire!
[23.04.2018 19:33:30] =CR=FV-Thanatos: Ok, that is legitimately a new one.
[23.04.2018 19:33:31] =CR=FV-Eris|231: W: Why? You're a big, juicy warship.
[23.04.2018 19:33:44] =CR=FV-Aeacus|108: Richard: All hands, fire at will!
[23.04.2018 19:33:57] =CR=FV-Eris|231: W: Sir, it's carrying people.
[23.04.2018 19:34:07] MNS-St.Alda: Elisabetta: This vessel does not have any guns, only injured and medical personnel onboard.
[23.04.2018 19:34:08] =CR=FV-Aeacus|108: Richard: Dont care.
[23.04.2018 19:34:19] =CR=FV-Eris|231: W: Roger that. Jack, buff up the guns.
[23.04.2018 19:34:21] =CR=FV-Aeacus|108: Richard: Burn it down!
[23.04.2018 19:34:37] MNS-St.Alda: Elisabetta: Please don't do this.
[23.04.2018 19:35:02] =CR=FV-Thanatos: Proceeding as ordered... moron
[23.04.2018 19:35:29] =CR=StarScream: M: WATCH YOUR FIRE bro
[23.04.2018 19:35:48] =CR=StarScream: M:Target down
[23.04.2018 19:35:53] =CR=FV-Eris|231: W: Damn..
[23.04.2018 19:35:56] Death: MNS-St.Alda was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
Lesson learned.
Well, i am sorry if we were been a bit carried out and harsh. But you have to understand that you was an outcast vessel, especially a ranseur. What that means? That means you command the most fierce piece of devastation tool our second archenemy commands and mıst be eradicated on sight. Plus, Crayter does not value Outcast lives, even civilians of it, due to them considered inhuman bu the use of cardamine and the acts of whole nation. It is not a personal thing, simply we doing our RP, and the thing is, you were unarmed, so outcome would not be any different. If you were armed the slightest bit i would offer a duel with that Deimos though.
TL;DR: Its not personal, its how we do our RP, accidents happens, move on and keep a cool head.
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - TheShooter36 - 04-23-2018
(04-23-2018, 09:24 PM)TheSauron Wrote: Why?
Why not?
Jokes aside, its a two side thing in orkney and people piles ıup on people there, its a normal thing. Due to its chaotic natüre i dont bother to balance fights and encourage going full on from both sides actually. Gank or get ganked, its a natural occurance of discovery IMO.
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - Shaggy - 04-23-2018
(04-23-2018, 10:07 PM)TheShooter36 Wrote:(04-23-2018, 09:00 PM)Fordm Wrote: How desperate do you have to be for blues to gank an unarmed vessel full of injured people? At least put some effort into your RP.
I was hoping for some quality RP. And I get this. Stupid me.
Quote:[23.04.2018 19:32:40] CFV-Saturnius: mns-St.alda in my scanner
[23.04.2018 19:33:19] MNS-St.Alda: ?: This is captain Elisabetta Cerra of the MNS-St.Alda hospital ship. Please hold your fire!
[23.04.2018 19:33:30] =CR=FV-Thanatos: Ok, that is legitimately a new one.
[23.04.2018 19:33:31] =CR=FV-Eris|231: W: Why? You're a big, juicy warship.
[23.04.2018 19:33:44] =CR=FV-Aeacus|108: Richard: All hands, fire at will!
[23.04.2018 19:33:57] =CR=FV-Eris|231: W: Sir, it's carrying people.
[23.04.2018 19:34:07] MNS-St.Alda: Elisabetta: This vessel does not have any guns, only injured and medical personnel onboard.
[23.04.2018 19:34:08] =CR=FV-Aeacus|108: Richard: Dont care.
[23.04.2018 19:34:19] =CR=FV-Eris|231: W: Roger that. Jack, buff up the guns.
[23.04.2018 19:34:21] =CR=FV-Aeacus|108: Richard: Burn it down!
[23.04.2018 19:34:37] MNS-St.Alda: Elisabetta: Please don't do this.
[23.04.2018 19:35:02] =CR=FV-Thanatos: Proceeding as ordered... moron
[23.04.2018 19:35:29] =CR=StarScream: M: WATCH YOUR FIRE bro
[23.04.2018 19:35:48] =CR=StarScream: M:Target down
[23.04.2018 19:35:53] =CR=FV-Eris|231: W: Damn..
[23.04.2018 19:35:56] Death: MNS-St.Alda was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
Lesson learned.
Well, i am sorry if we were been a bit carried out and harsh. But you have to understand that you was an outcast vessel, especially a ranseur. What that means? That means you command the most fierce piece of devastation tool our second archenemy commands and mıst be eradicated on sight. Plus, Crayter does not value Outcast lives, even civilians of it, due to them considered inhuman bu the use of cardamine and the acts of whole nation. It is not a personal thing, simply we doing our RP, and the thing is, you were unarmed, so outcome would not be any different. If you were armed the slightest bit i would offer a duel with that Deimos though.
TL;DR: Its not personal, its how we do our RP, accidents happens, move on and keep a cool head.
So this is the RP CR provide now? It's a shame really. From the chat logs it looks like you didn't even give this guy a chance to explain, not only that but you did not ask about where the injured people where from or going too. But you decided to shoot the unarmored OC BS because his info card, ID and IFF likely said outcast.
You guys being and official faction and getting alot of new goodies this community should expect better
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - Fordm - 04-23-2018
Of course, nothing personal. But it is still bad RP. Yes, it is a Ranseur and Outcast but it is also an UNARMED one,
which is obviously not a "fierce piece of devastation tool". I even said that it is a Hospital ship. I can understand if the same rules don't apply here but still.
Okay, they don't value Outcast lives but there were Kusari, Libertonian, Bretonian and maybe some from your faction onboard.
Liberty is one of your allies, you just killed some of their people. Not only civilians but officers of their navy.
How do you justify that? Nomads would do this but a Republic?
Bohoo bad outcasts? When they are helping wounded and sick people?
I think it was a rash decision on your part, saw an easy blue and went for it.
And again, I understand, nothing personal.
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - Lanakov - 04-23-2018
Despite your insisting on the contrary, Shooter, I believe that event or not, fleet balance should always, always be an objective. It can never be perfect, but it should at the very least be attempted. I despise this logic of "I'm ganked, therefore I shall gank back", only bitterness and steamrolls can come out of it.
As leader of the MRG, I have to contend with CR fairly often, usually with good results. But I've been very displeased at the way you handled things ever since the Montmorency event started, and those two examples above seem to go my way. Being carried over occasionally is one thing, but going all the way and telling others "well screw this, let's not balance things and just throw everything we've got at each other, and too bad for you if you're on the side with lesser numbers" is not something I will condone.
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - Chills - 04-24-2018
CR is not at fault for GRN not having an alive playerbase. It is rather nice to see a faction with a playerbase that still has the motivation to log and fight. There are only very few GRN logging.
Still it is true that such things shouldnt happen as rightclicking the enemy with 5x more players, just because your playerbase is huger. Take an example on other factions where a few players are just standing beside and watch because they have more. Also yelling at certain players that you would start a "crusade" on them because they said your faction schould not come to the event area for orkney is irp too far and dangerous for CR, is not something that should be typically be done. Additionally it appears that there was the intention to follow this statement, as you were hugging Fort Albi at 1k range with multiple battleships, killing everything that undocked.
Anyway. Everyone realized by now that CR has a huger playerbase than GRN, let alone the rest of the sirian factions that fight gallia.
As this goes on i dont think there will be much more fights anyway, just yesterday 2 other players decided to quit playing grn.
Keep your activity up!
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - TheShooter36 - 04-24-2018
(04-23-2018, 10:55 PM)Fordm Wrote: Liberty is one of your allies, you just killed some of their people. Not only civilians but officers of their navy.
Ypu did not state that in game. So we could not know. We assumed they were outcasts and fired.
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - TheShooter36 - 04-24-2018
(04-23-2018, 10:58 PM)Lanakov Wrote: Despite your insisting on the contrary, Shooter, I believe that event or not, fleet balance should always, always be an objective. It can never be perfect, but it should at the very least be attempted. I despise this logic of "I'm ganked, therefore I shall gank back", only bitterness and steamrolls can come out of it.
As leader of the MRG, I have to contend with CR fairly often, usually with good results. But I've been very displeased at the way you handled things ever since the Montmorency event started, and those two examples above seem to go my way. Being carried over occasionally is one thing, but going all the way and telling others "well screw this, let's not balance things and just throw everything we've got at each other, and too bad for you if you're on the side with lesser numbers" is not something I will condone.
Your feedback is considered and noted at a special place. Thank you for bringing us your concerns. While i had good and balanced fights with MRG, our history with your indies does not go well. Anyways, indies are not our concern here, are they?
RE: =CR= Crayter Republic Feedback - TheShooter36 - 04-24-2018
(04-24-2018, 07:06 AM)Chills Wrote: CR is not at fault for GRN not having an alive playerbase. It is rather nice to see a faction with a playerbase that still has the motivation to log and fight. There are only very few GRN logging.
Still it is true that such things shouldnt happen as rightclicking the enemy with 5x more players, just because your playerbase is huger. Take an example on other factions where a few players are just standing beside and watch because they have more. Also yelling at certain players that you would start a "crusade" on them because they said your faction schould not come to the event area for orkney is irp too far and dangerous for CR, is not something that should be typically be done. Additionally it appears that there was the intention to follow this statement, as you were hugging Fort Albi at 1k range with multiple battleships, killing everything that undocked.
Anyway. Everyone realized by now that CR has a huger playerbase than GRN, let alone the rest of the sirian factions that fight gallia.
As this goes on i dont think there will be much more fights anyway, just yesterday 2 other players decided to quit playing grn.
Keep your activity up!
Thank you for yout feedback.
That fort albi business was a cluster**** and we had no intention to be at 1k to it. i chased a samura supplying the base, while thinking the rest wouldnt follow me, then i saw you lot, thought you would fire at once, and fired before you could fire. I apologize for that but you have to understand we had no intention of being oh-so-cruel-gankers-that-wants-ez-blues. At least not to that extent. It was a cluster****.