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RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - Zen_Mechanics - 12-16-2013
Doesnt matter if they lost it or not, they can easly set a trade embargo on liberty and kill it. Kusari is in their pockets, liberty by my reckoning cant support its war efforts for too long. Infact its liberty who needs to be losing. Id like to.see liberty losing because frankly they dont have an economy anymore. Correct me, Brietonia.is crippled, they went on a aar with gallia, which means kusari will be forced soon to sanction liberty commerce. Why do the dev teams feel free to simply ruin other houses by events and not with liberty.
RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - Druen78 - 12-16-2013
I agree that Liberty should be somewhat more affected by current storyline events. The fact is that Bretonia was more or less the trading hub that sustained most of Sirius economy. EVERYONE's economy should be in ruins due to the gallic invasion, not just Liberty's.
RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - tothebonezone - 12-16-2013
(12-16-2013, 11:17 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Doesnt matter if they lost it or not, they can easly set a trade embargo on liberty and kill it. Kusari is in their pockets, liberty by my reckoning cant support its war efforts for too long. Infact its liberty who needs to be losing.
LOLWUT
Liberty has Interspace, and Ageira, first off.
Ageira made BILLIONS upon BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of credits from gate and lane technology alone. They still make money from gate and lane parts, they still make money from their firearms and ship weapons, and like it or not, Kusari still buys from them. Woops.
Interspace is the banking corporation of the sector, they make money every time someone uses a lane, they make money every time cargo is insured through them, they make money by making money.
Lets take a moment to see what Rheinland doesn't have.
Oh right, insured cargo, banking, and really, probably zero income from lanes being used by ships every day. Rheinland threw out Interspace, which is literally the money supergiant in the Sector.
Rheinland has NOTHING to keep their war going besides totalitarianism, and a bottlenecked trading route between them and Kusari. Only one way into Kusari? Expect every goddamn pirate to be on that route. The war continues because the fuhrer chancellor wills it.
Please stop posting again, Tel.
RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - Druen78 - 12-16-2013
Well, money alone means nothing if the real market is in ruins. Unless you're telling us that Interspace can make money by trading with themselves.
RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - tothebonezone - 12-16-2013
They can't, no, but who's going to go through Rheinland with uninsured cargo?
One pirate, and you've just lost your company, and yourself, a load of money.
It turns into a risk/reward thing and when Rheinland has no money, on top of being a risky stop, it's not worth it.
RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - xiphos - 12-16-2013
(12-16-2013, 11:17 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Kusari is in their pockets
I would really like to hear why and how....
RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - kikatsu - 12-16-2013
(12-16-2013, 12:25 PM)xiphos Wrote:(12-16-2013, 11:17 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Kusari is in their pockets
I would really like to hear why and how....
Kusari scientists blew up the sun in Munich so now Kusari is throwing money at Rheinland to stop them from going totally crazy.
RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - Druen78 - 12-16-2013
(12-16-2013, 12:19 PM)Saronsen Wrote: They can't, no, but who's going to go through Rheinland with uninsured cargo?
One pirate, and you've just lost your company, and yourself, a load of money.
It turns into a risk/reward thing and when Rheinland has no money, on top of being a risky stop, it's not worth it.
You're missing then point: if the economy is crippled, there's less money around (it doesn't appear out of nowhere). And even Interspace will find it harder to make money, if there's less people around that can afford their services. Money is just a mean, not a final product. You can't eat money, you can't build ships with money, you can't grow crops with money. The war is hindering the circulation of real products, hence crippling the circulation of money as a result. And since Interspace is completely based upon the circulation of a totally virtual resources as credits, I'd say they'd be the ones MOST affected by the war crisis, not the contrary. When people become poorer, they'll lose faith on virtual values and rely more on real economy (just look around, that's what is currently happening in RL). It means that money loses value and real economy prices skyrocket; more and more virtual credits get converted into real market goods, as people cannot afford anymore to stash money in banks because they need all of it to sustain their families. Some banks will fail, while others will capitalize on the public debts, thus making Houses poorer as a result. Virtual economy will become an incostant nightmare, where thousands of billions will rise and fall within hours, none of it actually meaning anythuing for the people, because the ties between virtual and real economies will become so weak to be considered almost meaningless. As a response, though, in order to face the increasing virtual debts, Houses will start strangling the real economy with taxes, thus making everyone even more poor. The production of real values will grind almost to a halt; all the virtual money will be centered on banks/insurances, but its real value will be almost nothing.
That's what would realistically happen on a complex economy suddenly suffering a conquest invasion like it's happening with Gallia. Of course, this is Disco, any pretense of realism is moot.
RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - APDAF - 12-16-2013
Rheinland is not overpowered liberty is.
It has almost no natural resources other than boron.
Rheinland has huge amounts of natural resources.
RE: Rheinland Stronger than Disco Gives Credit - xiphos - 12-16-2013
(12-16-2013, 12:41 PM)kikatsu Wrote:(12-16-2013, 12:25 PM)xiphos Wrote:(12-16-2013, 11:17 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Kusari is in their pockets
I would really like to hear why and how....
Kusari scientists blew up the sun in Munich so now Kusari is throwing money at Rheinland to stop them from going totally crazy.
Oh yeah. The Munich accident. Forgot about this one.
P.S: Next time send FA scientists. Problem solved.
