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RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - Laura C. - 06-17-2014
Guys, despite I understand your point of view, stop forcing them to completely change their idea and play something different. This is not some "we are new Liberty Navy unit doing same job as officials, but indepedent" type of faction, as in this case advice "please join existing faction instead of making new one" is justified.
There are some similarities but in case of Looters saying "please go play Mollys" is wrong. They don´t want to be Mollys. If they would be, they would join Mollys. They have their actually interesting idea which DOESN´T fit into Mollys box. Nor Gaians.
Do you really want them to be Mollys which doesn´t care about Dublin? Do you really want them to be Gaians without any relation to Gaia stuff? They are obviously not interested in this.
RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - Cashew - 06-17-2014
Thanks, it's not a faction without people. So I'll have to see if this appeals to anyone.. If not then I suppose nothing will become of it.
RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - Thyrzul - 06-17-2014
(06-17-2014, 02:53 PM)seven-alpha-one-one Wrote: Basically, we are homeless, so, we wish to capture a system and build our homes there.
and this is not related to the Molly concept. we are in no way interested in Politics. we are just angry at the Bretonian Government, and wish to establish ourselves, as well as extract revenge.
The Looters call Leeds their home and fight the Bretonian forces to seize control over it, and then have their revenge over Bretland for taking Leeds from them.
(Although it looks incredibly silly to fight Bretonian authorities in order to acquire something currently controlled by Gallia.)
The Mollys call Dublin their home and fight the Bretonian forces to seize control over it, and then have their revenge over Bretland for taking Dublin from them.
There is no need to get involved into politics at all to be similar. The two doesn't have to be related either for them to be complete copycats.
And then please do tell me the reason behind the "We lost our home so we are mad at those who wanted to save it for us instead of being mad at those who took it from us." way of thinking. I somehow fail to find any.
(Although it looks incredibly silly to fight Bretonian authorities in order to acquire something currently controlled by Gallia.)
The Mollys call Dublin their home and fight the Bretonian forces to seize control over it, and then have their revenge over Bretland for taking Dublin from them.
There is no need to get involved into politics at all to be similar. The two doesn't have to be related either for them to be complete copycats.
And then please do tell me the reason behind the "We lost our home so we are mad at those who wanted to save it for us instead of being mad at those who took it from us." way of thinking. I somehow fail to find any.
RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - The Leeds Looters - 06-17-2014
Quote:The Looters call Leeds their home and fight the Bretonian forces to seize control over it, and then have their revenge over Bretland for taking Leeds from them.
Yeah, the problem is that it's taken over by Gauls, they'd be happy taking over leeds but without somewhere to conduct themselves and prepare for raids then they would be wiped out by the superiors.
RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - 7AlphaOne1 - 06-17-2014
(06-17-2014, 03:58 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:You have got it wrong. basically, we are all civvies, who trusted the bretland govt, but feel betrayed, and turned against the Govt. while we are at that, most of us guys lost family on leeds(I actually RP a widower of 26), so, we resent Gallic rule, and want to overthrow it.(06-17-2014, 02:53 PM)seven-alpha-one-one Wrote: Basically, we are homeless, so, we wish to capture a system and build our homes there.
and this is not related to the Molly concept. we are in no way interested in Politics. we are just angry at the Bretonian Government, and wish to establish ourselves, as well as extract revenge.
The Looters call Leeds their home and fight the Bretonian forces to seize control over it, and then have their revenge over Bretland for taking Leeds from them.
(Although it looks incredibly silly to fight Bretonian authorities in order to acquire something currently controlled by Gallia.)
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Mollies are basically(no offense) claim jumping gold robbers , while we fight for a civvie cause. Its a un7que RP Idea, please keep only constructive criticism here. saying"Go join Mollies/Gaians/Xenos " wont help, and wont be taken seri8usly either.
RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - Thyrzul - 06-17-2014
You still didn't answer my last query.
(06-17-2014, 03:58 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:And then please do tell me the reason behind the "We lost our home so we are mad at those who wanted to save it for us instead of being mad at those who took it from us." way of thinking. I somehow fail to find any.
EDIT: Because of ninja 7A11
So the Looters feel betrayed by the BretGov simply because they weren't able to defend Leeds from an overwhelming force? It's like when you get robbed by 3 folks, and a lone policeman arrives to your aid, he gets shot by the burglars while they escape, after the scene you walk up to the policeman lying on the ground mortally wounded and kick him a few times for taking a bullet for you. Do you want to roleplay that?
So the Looters feel betrayed by the BretGov simply because they weren't able to defend Leeds from an overwhelming force? It's like when you get robbed by 3 folks, and a lone policeman arrives to your aid, he gets shot by the burglars while they escape, after the scene you walk up to the policeman lying on the ground mortally wounded and kick him a few times for taking a bullet for you. Do you want to roleplay that?
RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - 7AlphaOne1 - 06-17-2014
umm, I did, homey
RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - The Leeds Looters - 06-17-2014
(06-17-2014, 04:26 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: You still didn't answer my last query.
(06-17-2014, 03:58 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:And then please do tell me the reason behind the "We lost our home so we are mad at those who wanted to save it for us instead of being mad at those who took it from us." way of thinking. I somehow fail to find any.
EDIT: Because of ninja 7A11
So the Looters feel betrayed by the BretGov simply because they weren't able to defend Leeds from an overwhelming force? It's like when you get robbed by 3 folks, and a lone policeman arrives to your aid, he gets shot by the burglars while they escape, after the scene you walk up to the policeman lying on the ground mortally wounded and kick him a few times for taking a bullet for you. Do you want to roleplay that?
So basically, the Looters were taken to various planets only to find that the Bretonian government weren't going to provide new houses for them. So they took revenge basically. Summed up they hate both.
RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - Laura C. - 06-17-2014
(06-17-2014, 04:26 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: You still didn't answer my last query.
(06-17-2014, 03:58 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:And then please do tell me the reason behind the "We lost our home so we are mad at those who wanted to save it for us instead of being mad at those who took it from us." way of thinking. I somehow fail to find any.
EDIT: Because of ninja 7A11
So the Looters feel betrayed by the BretGov simply because they weren't able to defend Leeds from an overwhelming force? It's like when you get robbed by 3 folks, and a lone policeman arrives to your aid, he gets shot by the burglars while they escape, after the scene you walk up to the policeman lying on the ground mortally wounded and kick him a few times for taking a bullet for you. Do you want to roleplay that?
I think they more want to roleplay people who are desperate enough to do everything they can to get themself and their families at least little better life. People on Leeds are now in the firezone of Gauls because Brets can´t stop them. And those who were evacuated are now living in big refugee camps on Sprague.
So why some people would not want to stop thinking about moral and ethics and simply get supplies everywhere is it possible and by all means to get their friends and families better food in refugee camps or weapons for resistance on Leeds which is desperately trying to defend their homes and Brets at this moment are not giving them any support (sure, they can´t even if they would want, but that doesn´t change the situation for the regular people down there).
That is my understanding of the RP position of this faction.
RE: The Worker’s of Leeds Revolutionary Army - Leeds Looters - Faction Information - Binski - 06-17-2014
I like this faction idea. Using the pirate ID is a good aspect that is rarely used anymore. It will let you develop your own diplomacy which gives a lot of freedom. Even against GRN forces etc, the pirate ID will let you get paid big or fight it out. Looking forward to encountering some Looters in action!