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RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - Fluffyball - 02-03-2015
Then we wait for Core and Order killing themselves for FP11. ^.~
RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - Gytrash - 02-03-2015
(02-03-2015, 10:31 AM)Saronsen Wrote:(02-03-2015, 10:30 AM)Gytrash Wrote: Long story short, you attack Zoners the Zoners have no reason to let you dock at their bases.
Why not make them rephacked to undockable status?
Instead, it's literally open season for both groups now.
Hostile relations does not mean at war.
Then again the Order has been behaving as if it's open season on Zoners for some time now.
RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - tothebonezone - 02-03-2015
(02-03-2015, 10:33 AM)Gytrash Wrote: Hostile relations does not mean at war.
You seriously, SERIOUSLY underestimate what having a red name on the scanner box means to just about everyone else on the server.
RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - FynnMcScrap - 02-03-2015
Do I get it right : IFF does NOT override ID ?
So Zoners and Order do not like each other any more, and some Players are itching at shooting...
I see some load of sanctioning for the Admins.
RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - Gytrash - 02-03-2015
(02-03-2015, 10:34 AM)Saronsen Wrote:(02-03-2015, 10:33 AM)Gytrash Wrote: Hostile relations does not mean at war.
You seriously, SERIOUSLY underestimate what having a red name on the scanner box means to just about everyone else on the server.
I know that we'll get some "Engagabubble, we at war, no RP anymore" but the official Order stance on Zoners has been so far "Bend over and prepare yourselves Zoners!" so the fact that hostility between Order and Zoners that has primarily been coming from Order is now codified and Zoners can defend themselves is not, in my mind a bad move.
Actions have consequences, the Order is now feeling the consequences of their actions and this will also have repercussions, we can't predict how this will play out in it's entirety and it would be foolish to try. I view this as a continuation of RP and moving it into lore. We can't stay stagnant all the time and this is the biggest shake up to happen to the Zoners in ages.
RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - FynnMcScrap - 02-03-2015
... and all with a Borderworld remake pending ...
I think it´s time to log my Zoner more often ;-)
RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - Sabru - 02-03-2015
We'll surely see trolls making Order ships to pew zoners for the lulz.
RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - Eduard - 02-03-2015
(02-03-2015, 10:30 AM)Gytrash Wrote:(02-03-2015, 10:29 AM)Toris James Gray Wrote: Uhhhh... that's normal nature of warfare? If bases deny docking rights on your very own soil, you either capture them or destroy them. You are forgetting this is a roleplay server and indeed, every action should have consequences.
And you act like the Order is some super capable and well resourced group, desppite them losing almost all their toys inRPO when they lost their planet.
I will refrain from questioning the zoner caps' legitimacy and how they more or less appeared out of thin air.
Truthfully, none of the two sides are super capable or well resourced, and none should harbour so many capital ships.
But to comment over caps and inRP when zoners can hardly prove their own is ill advised.
To be honest and comment over this rephack, I think the fault falls on both sides, neither the zoners nor the Order were... angels in their conduct towards one another.
Still, it would be ideal to apprehend this change as an opportunity to do something good for it, and I address it to both sides. Community, you have been proved that inRP actions adhere server side consequences. Why lament when you can make something good out of it?
The Order can facilitate RP to create other allies, it can also facilitate RP to... repair bonds with the Phoenix (I honestly do not understand where does Phoenix fit in this), and so on and so on. Why must we instantly think about the unfortunate aftermath of pointing guns at one another as a by-product of rage, drama and QQ?
RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - Fluffyball - 02-03-2015
Quote:Why must we instantly think about the unfortunate aftermath of pointing guns at one another as a by-product of rage, drama and QQ?
Because a lot of players look for easy pew, more than to the roleplay. And instead of sanctioning such behaviour, both factions were given a loaded weapon - that's my opinion at least.
RE: Discussion Faction rephacked hostile: Order - Swifty - 02-03-2015
(02-03-2015, 10:29 AM)Toris James Gray Wrote:(02-03-2015, 10:27 AM)Gytrash Wrote:(02-03-2015, 10:04 AM)Toris James Gray Wrote: So I propose roleplay excuse for that and turning some never-visited or even rarely used or even majority of the bases to The Order. It would be logical if Zoners declared The Order their enemy and the latter would just simply "secure" bases for their own gain in such situation.
I look forward for Zoner-Order War now.
You what mate?
You want to give the Order Zoner bases as a reward for attacking Zoners?
Uhhhh... that's normal nature of warfare? If a base deny docking rights on your very own soil, you either sanction it, capture it or destroy it. You are forgetting this is a roleplay server and indeed, every action should have consequences.
That if the Core would let such thing happen. Like letting Order take over another Station and not give $#&% about it, that's how it sounds to me. You all are forgetting about them.
On topic - Order pretty much asked for this with their current actions. If they acted differently the ZA-Order alliance would have been intact even today too. But hey, they might realize that when it's too late. Decisions have been taken, one side (or both) will suffer because of this decisions, all we can do is collect the tears and send them where they belong - Temple of the damned.