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RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - Krmloo - 03-29-2015
(03-29-2015, 07:11 PM)JohnyWalker Wrote: this makes they can target you but you cant target them, because they are better centered, If you can test Atlantins... you will see a lot of problems because the center is not good positioned.
You are wrong. It is effective for both ships. That's just scanner displaying less range than it should.
RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - Zayne Carrick - 03-29-2015
Quote:Interesting... so you are saying to mess with less base amor (840.000) and less weapons (max 13).Exactly. It doesn't really matter how many armor or weapons battleship has. Size of dreadnought makes it one of the best battleships in the mod, just keep 3k distance from turtle and it will die quite fast.
RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - JohnyWalker - 03-29-2015
(03-29-2015, 07:16 PM)Kirill Wrote:(03-29-2015, 07:11 PM)JohnyWalker Wrote: this makes they can target you but you cant target them, because they are better centered, If you can test Atlantins... you will see a lot of problems because the center is not good positioned.
You are wrong. It is effective for both ships. That's just scanner displaying less range than it should.
Ok ok, sorry then, i missunderstood that system then hehehehe, anyway... scanners are too much nerfed also. If you compare Advanced Deep Scanner (around 80000 price)... only 4k cargo scan improve cost around 240.000.000$!!!.... speechless. It should have 25k ship scan like was before.
RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - JohnyWalker - 03-29-2015
(03-29-2015, 07:17 PM)Zayne Carrick Wrote:Quote:Interesting... so you are saying to mess with less base amor (840.000) and less weapons (max 13).Exactly. It doesn't really matter how many armor or weapons battleship has. Size of dreadnought makes it one of the best battleships in the mod, just keep 3k distance from turtle and it will die quite fast.
I disagree... they can shoot from 3.2 range with that green lasers, working against shields and hull...
RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - Krmloo - 03-29-2015
(03-29-2015, 07:11 PM)JohnyWalker Wrote: But a part of targeting, lets see an example:
Rheinland Battleship:
Gun/turrets: 0/23
Base armor: 1.400.000
Cargo:1800
Power: 300000/9000000
Bats/nanos: 2000/2000
Impulse: 90
Cruise:350
Equipmet: CM
Liberty Carrier "Atlantis" (is the biggest one for navy, no battleships):
Gun/turrets: 0/27
Base armor: 950.000
Cargo: 1800
Power: 300000/9000000
Bats/nanos: 1600/1600
Impulse: 90
Cruise: 350
Equipment: CM
There is no way to mess with the Rheinland monsters... Atlantis SHOULD be a Battleship with the same stats. All other factions, have class18 like the turttle, but Navy max class17 carrier, why? THIS is the main question hehehehehe.
LiCarrier is carrier. It has more DM slots, it has more secondaries. It isn't anti-bs ship. And LiDread is medium battleship. It is smaller, it has better turn speed, it has better centered turrets. You need to use TS and TZ (turret steer and turret zoom). Just don't go in frontal attack while you need to maneuver.
RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - JohnyWalker - 03-29-2015
(03-29-2015, 07:23 PM)Kirill Wrote:(03-29-2015, 07:11 PM)JohnyWalker Wrote: But a part of targeting, lets see an example:
Rheinland Battleship:
Gun/turrets: 0/23
Base armor: 1.400.000
Cargo:1800
Power: 300000/9000000
Bats/nanos: 2000/2000
Impulse: 90
Cruise:350
Equipmet: CM
Liberty Carrier "Atlantis" (is the biggest one for navy, no battleships):
Gun/turrets: 0/27
Base armor: 950.000
Cargo: 1800
Power: 300000/9000000
Bats/nanos: 1600/1600
Impulse: 90
Cruise: 350
Equipment: CM
There is no way to mess with the Rheinland monsters... Atlantis SHOULD be a Battleship with the same stats. All other factions, have class18 like the turttle, but Navy max class17 carrier, why? THIS is the main question hehehehehe.
LiCarrier is carrier. It has more DM slots, it has more secondaries. It isn't anti-bs ship. And LiDread is medium battleship. It is smaller, it has better turn speed, it has better centered turrets. You need to use TS and TZ (turret steer and turret zoom). Just don't go in frontal attack while you need to maneuver.
I understood that... but my question is.... why all other factions can have class18 and Navy dont (battleships)... Its a balanced problem! have no sense... If Atlantins is made against gunboats, why it move slower? why it have worst centered turrets? the secondary weapons have not much range... much less than others (max around 2k)
RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - Crackling - 03-29-2015
Navy has LSC.
Navy has LABC.
Navy has good GB(compared to Rheinland one).
Aaaand, finally, it has dreadnought, which is actually better than turtle.
RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - Highland Laddie - 03-29-2015
Quote:Im saying... why the bigger ship of Navy is a carrier? there are no battleships.
Quote:There is no way to mess with the Rheinland monsters... Atlantis SHOULD be a Battleship with the same stats. All other factions, have class18 like the turttle, but Navy max class17 carrier, why? THIS is the main question hehehehehe
Johnny...just because a carrier is physically bigger than a BS doesn't mean it HAS to be better/stronger/etc. It is bigger, because it's RP role is to serve as a fighter/snub carrying platform. It is NOT supposed to be a heavily-armored warship that clashes with Battleships. That is what OTHER Battleships, Cruisers, and Bombers are for.
RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - Zayne Carrick - 03-29-2015
Quote:I disagree... they can shoot from 3.2 range with that green lasers, working against shields and hull...Ever tried strafing?
Quote:Navy has good GB(compared to Rheinland one).Another one. Rheinland GB is slim and powerful. In my opinion comparable, if not better than LibGB
RE: Rheinland Battleship (turttles) - Crackling - 03-29-2015
(03-29-2015, 08:43 PM)Zayne Carrick Wrote:Quote:I disagree... they can shoot from 3.2 range with that green lasers, working against shields and hull...Ever tried strafing?
Quote:Navy has good GB(compared to Rheinland one).Another one. Rheinland GB is slim and powerful. In my opinion comparable, if not better than LibGB
"Slim"
Do you go head in head? Or trying to escape by flying straight and strafe?
If yes, may be, lets speak about real battles?