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RE: Carriers - Hidamari - 11-15-2015
I pretty much agree with Titan'
(11-15-2015, 05:36 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: I'm still intrigued though on the idea of making it a primary support class ship... better than the repair ship in the way that it can transport snubs.
Would be good to see some variety at least, yes. the repair ship should still repair much faster than the carrier though.
(11-15-2015, 05:56 PM)jammi Wrote: Why must there be?
because its an obvious waste of potential to be honest... its just a shame the only balance dev no-lifes dota2 all day.
RE: Carriers - Wesker - 11-15-2015
(11-15-2015, 04:24 PM)Hidamari Wrote:(11-15-2015, 03:32 PM)Titan Wrote: 5.Carriers should have same stats with a Battlecruiser. Also it should carry same guns like Battlecruiser.
arent most of the carriers gigantic.. i dont think they would be worth using at all if they had battlecruiser cores and weapons.
Yea the geb is so big
RE: Carriers - Lythrilux - 11-15-2015
What carriers are expertly taking on Battleships OP? The Geb is the only one that comes to mind because it is tiny and has a lot of guns.
RE: Carriers - Wesker - 11-15-2015
If theres any carrier that needs some changes its the geb. Its the smallest fastest BS in the mod combined with its armor and turret arcs and number of secondary turrets, you have the most Overpowered capital ship in the mod. It needs to be fixed.
RE: Carriers - Wesker - 11-15-2015
(11-15-2015, 06:54 PM)Titan Wrote:(11-15-2015, 05:56 PM)jammi Wrote:(11-15-2015, 05:51 PM)Titan Wrote: There must be differences between Carrier and Battleships. Carrier with battleship weapons is really weird though
Carrier class ships always had support role, I still don't know why it is different in discovery maybe devs dont want to do anything about them(yo know laziness?). Removing BS HVY turrets from Carriers not hard tho.
Why must there be? Like I said, they're currently being used to plug gaps in shiplines. That's a desirable balance mechanic so far as ship access is concerned, so that's probably why they've not been changed according to your ideas.
Your ideas won't make them feel like carriers in any case - it'll just make them feel like gimped and useless battleships. I don't think we need any more of those.
So what? It is damn carrier class, read again CARRIER.
How the hell a carrier destroying a battleship and it can even tank light battleships. I killed many light bs with my atlantis carrier, It was so easy to take out light battleships with it. Carriers are not battleship anyway, Carriers should have support role
Carriers shouldn't carry any Anti-Battleship weapons.
If they carrying anti-battleship turrets then it should be renamed to Battleship or Dreadnought and there shouldn't be any Carrier named ships.
Agreed
RE: Carriers - Prowler_Renamed - 11-15-2015
Carriers in the traditional carrier role serve absolutely no purpose in this game. There's no element of surprise to having a bunch of snubs docked on you, since the enemy can just check the player list to find you and your buddies in the same system. Most of them (minus the Geb) are just sub-par battleships, like the LAC. BS vs. BS wise, it's a Dread but worse in every way imaginable.
Giving it repair guns won't work because they're too slow, and generally the snubs and whatnot can just fly to the nearest allied base and restock, because NPC bases tend not to get uncloaked on and absolutely ruined.
Battlecruisers have the slowest turn rates of any ship class in the game, and if the LAC was turned into a battlecruiser, it'd be useless.
There was something about a teleportation feature, but I don't know how that's worked out.
RE: Carriers - Titan* - 11-15-2015
(11-15-2015, 08:21 PM)"Prowler Wrote: Giving it repair guns won't work because they're too slow, and generally the snubs and whatnot can just fly to the nearest allied base and restock, because NPC bases tend not to get uncloaked on and absolutely ruined.
Repair guns only repair capital ship hulls, not snubs. You can still dock to your carrier
RE: Carriers - Prowler_Renamed - 11-15-2015
It's still safer and easier to just dock on a friendly base and come back. There's a good reason why nobody's brought a repair ship to a fight/raid, because generally you're better off with more firepower than you are with a gimped battleship that can't actually battle ships.
RE: Carriers - Shizune - 11-15-2015
Can I just note here that not to long ago the Geb was actually a battlecruiser and not an assault carrier? I can't fully recall why it was changed to be fair, but I've had one back in the day while they were battlecruisers. On the topic of other carriers, their not really carriers. With a CAU 8, the LN carrier can withstand great brutal abuse while in combat unlike the Overlord. If I recall correctly, the LN carrier was made to take on the RM BS, and the LN BS to take on the RM carrier (and visa versa).
The Geb however? It used to be a battlecruiser, it should be turned back into one to be fair, there was no RP backing why it was changed, it was just done after the entire Toledo event a few years back.
Zoner carrier litterly is just used as a jump ship right now, because I've never seen anyone in their right mind used a Neph as a jump ship so the Aquilon makes more sense..Lets see, there's 5 carriers on this game (not including the 75th's one, as I count it as a light cruiser/carrier hybrid).
The military ones are made to counter enemy players, the Zoner one is quiet litterly just a jump ship now..and the Colonial one is the only big capital class they got..and the Geb used to be a battlecruiser, none of its module was changed because of that, its stats yes, its module? no.
RE: Carriers - Emperor Tekagi - 11-15-2015
This reminds me of something, when the Carriers get changed...what will be with the Crayterians?! Will they be stucked to a single (more or less useless) cap then..or will be the Kronos re-born?!