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RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - The Savage - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 11:53 AM)astroicecream Wrote: Me thinks , some small and inactive factions could be removed , if NOT removed , could be merged with their allies etc.
It actually makes sense, but certain factions cannot be touched because they are vanillia factions. Liberty has the most corporate factions, which is seven of them, while Bretonia barely has 3, Kusari 2 (or 3, if you count Hogosha) and Rheinland has 4. But then, fusion gets even more difficult, if two actually pretty similiar factions have way different diplomacy.
The other problem is that certain scenarios cannot be done, despite them being written inside IDs. Corporate warfare cannot be done, because when X would assault Y in, let's say, Tau-29 - the Y would go to house authority and X gets fined. I'd love to explore corporate piracy on Kishiro as Samura in Tau-29, but then KNF would demand several million fine for that shortly after.
RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - Cursetantine - 12-01-2015
Removal of factions can be done in an effecient inRP way. Like Gaian movement coming to an end , Gateway bankrupting ..Federal Police force being disbanded by martial law... And many other examples.
This is actually making more sense than merge of factions..
RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - Laura C. - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 11:57 AM)FluffReborn Wrote: The other problem is that certain scenarios cannot be done, despite them being written inside IDs. Corporate warfare cannot be done, because when X would assault Y in, let's say, Tau-29 - the Y would go to house authority and X gets fined. I'd love to explore corporate piracy on Kishiro as Samura in Tau-29, but then KNF would demand several million fine for that shortly after.It seems you missed rule change about house law enforcement in other than house core systems, which were implemented to promote corporate warfare. In House Controlled Space like Tau-29 (see yellow names in rules) and Outer systems (red names), the consequencies like fines can be applied only when law enforcers are directly present at the spot during the crime. Sending screenshots by victim doesn´t work. So if no KNF is in sight, you can pirate Kishiro with your Samura all you like in Tau-29 without fear of consequencies.
(12-01-2015, 12:10 PM)astroicecream Wrote: Removal of factions can be done in an effecient inRP way. Like Gaian movement coming to an end , Gateway bankrupting ..Federal Police force being disbanded by martial law... And many other examples.I don´t understand why you think that removing any factions will bring any major benefit. The amount of players will be still the same, you are only going to limit their RP possibilities. Of course you can make one law enforcement faction for each house, one corporate faction and one unlawful faction, but that will turn Disco universe into very flat boring world. People are trying to advertise Disco as RP server with many possible roles to play, so there must be diversity.
This is actually making more sense than merge of factions..
RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - The Savage - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 12:10 PM)astroicecream Wrote: Removal of factions can be done in an effecient inRP way. Like Gaian movement coming to an end , Gateway bankrupting ..Federal Police force being disbanded by martial law... And many other examples.
This is actually making more sense than merge of factions..
Gaian faction would be very glad to disagree with you, I suppose. Also, it would mean no counter for Mollys, as usually Houses (except for Kusari, since Dragons aren't really pirates) have two antagonistic unlawful factions. Every single faction in Disco still has unresolved goals - such as LWB, which actually is happy about Synth Foods losing influence in Stuttgart, but their paste is still a thing in Rheinland. Also, returning to Gaians - they are proxy for Corsairs in Bretonia, so it's pretty unlikely movement would cease to exist.
(12-01-2015, 12:11 PM)Laura C. Wrote:(12-01-2015, 11:57 AM)FluffReborn Wrote: The other problem is that certain scenarios cannot be done, despite them being written inside IDs. Corporate warfare cannot be done, because when X would assault Y in, let's say, Tau-29 - the Y would go to house authority and X gets fined. I'd love to explore corporate piracy on Kishiro as Samura in Tau-29, but then KNF would demand several million fine for that shortly after.It seems you missed rule change about house law enforcement in other than house core systems, which were implemented to promote corporate warfare. In House Controlled Space like Tau-29 (see yellow names in rules) and Outer systems (red names), the consequencies like fines can be applied only when law enforcers are directly present at the spot during the crime. Sending screenshots by victim doesn´t work. So if no KNF is in sight, you can pirate Kishiro with your Samura all you like in Tau-29 without fear of consequencies.
Now that's something I did not know about.
RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - Oldum - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 11:57 AM)FluffReborn Wrote: It actually makes sense, but certain factions cannot be touched because they are vanillia factions. Liberty has the most corporate factions, which is seven of them, while Bretonia barely has 3, Kusari 2 (or 3, if you count Hogosha) and Rheinland has 4. But then, fusion gets even more difficult, if two actually pretty similiar factions have way different diplomacy.
How did you figure that 7 for Liberty out ? I think I have a guess, but I'd like to know. Cause as far as I know, the companies tied closely to Liberty are DSE, Ageira , Universal Shipping and maybe IC , but even that is jsut a leftover from prevoius mod versions.
RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - Highland Laddie - 12-01-2015
OS&C is also a Liberty corp and I think Cryer started as a Liberty corp, but is now based in Bretonia.
RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - The Savage - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 12:59 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: OS&C is also a Liberty corp and I think Cryer started as a Liberty corp, but is now based in Bretonia.
Technically, Cryer is made in Liberty, now settled in Bretonia, made by a Rheinlander.
RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - Oldum - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 01:09 PM)FluffReborn Wrote:(12-01-2015, 12:59 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: OS&C is also a Liberty corp and I think Cryer started as a Liberty corp, but is now based in Bretonia.
Technically, Cryer is made in Liberty, now settled in Bretonia, made by a Rheinlander.
While OSC doesn't even have any base or direct operation in Liberty (except for the Lux liner being sold on Baltimore) , it is completely independent, much like IC is suppose to be, but everyone is judging from NPC faction descriptions, which are the same for ~ 5-6 years now.
RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - Hidamari - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 09:31 AM)Alley Wrote: People crying 24/7 instead of helping.
Give me something to do, and i'll do it.
RE: Discovery writing itself into a corner: Community supported lore re-roll - Valhalla Rising - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 07:53 AM)|nfrared Wrote: Hudson JG blows up, Nomads, Liberty and Rheinland can have a big tentacle 3-way as the 2 houses blame each other. Sounds like a bad adult film, but with just as much action as one. Reignite the house war with a twist, but hurry up and do it already!
This would be more exciting than anything else happening right now. As Shia would say, "JUST DO IT!"
As far as I remember the Texas&Hudson brawls were the most fun I've had on the server, where 50+ people would usually clash, and almost 80% of the time crash the server. It provided alot of factions with alot of RP material, and even more people were included in the regular brawls we had loved so much.
I'm all for this idea. This, or as Tabris said, give the Coalition a chance to expand and pose a real threat to Sirius. Or even let them, and the Corsairs fight the GRN.
(12-01-2015, 01:46 PM)Hidamari Wrote:(12-01-2015, 09:31 AM)Alley Wrote: People crying 24/7 instead of helping.
Give me something to do, and i'll do it.
I have way too much time on my hands. I think I could help out with the storyline stuff, infocards, whatever that needs to be written or rewritten. Along with making stuff in Photoshop (textures I guess)