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RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - Jeremy Hunter - 05-22-2016
(05-22-2016, 02:01 PM)sasapinjic Wrote:(05-22-2016, 02:04 AM)Jeremy Hunter Wrote: That's called countering, not strange behavior...In my vocabulary thats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying
In my reality, logging bombers to attack caps is called strategy, and minimizing losses that caps could incur while engaging. it is not bullying, it's tactics.
Stop trying to paint anyone, GRN or LN, bad for changing ships to fit the situation.
RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - Yber - 05-23-2016
so 6 valors and 2 cruisers on 2 fighters is fine but 6 bombers vs 2 valors isn't?
good
RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - Jack_Henderson - 05-23-2016
I also do not understand what happened there.
It seems the GRN side felt entitled to wipe out the noob LN caps with their valor formations and get away with it victoriously. When LN started to employ bomber wings to kill off the victorious Valors, the planetdiving and complaining started because bombers vs. caps is really bad and unfair and bullying and krankras, and and and.
Hard for me to understand, tbh, because GRN players keep saying "adapt to what is being logged", but they stubbornly logged their Valors almost exclusively, then were disappointed when they died, but also refused to adapt to LN bringing bombers. As if 2 less Valors, 2 more snac GRN bombers would not have taken care of the noob huge LN bombers.
Anyway... I also felt triggered by seeing rule breaking behaviour equalled to login strategies.
RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - Lythrilux - 05-23-2016
Snubs don't find it fun when caps pile on them because there's nothing they can do.
Caps don't find it fun when snubs pile on them because there's nothing they can do (although snubs have the luxury of at least being able to run away).
Each class ruins the others respective fights when employed en masse.
RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - Shiki - 05-23-2016
(05-23-2016, 12:24 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: As if 2 less Valors, 2 more snac GRN bombers would not have taken care of the noob huge LN bombers.
Looks nice in theory and implying that GRN all Valor pilots are to be good at snac, which is obviously cannot be a thing. Obviously most of those people who flying Valors cannot do anything in snubs. Maybe for you, person who always agitates to log opposite side to GRN it will be hard to admit that we simply had no enough players to counter it. While those few GRN bombers who tried to counter LN bombers were oppressed by fighters. Not to mention to say that numerous and 'noob' LN bombers were actually able to snac cougars.
RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - SeaFalcon - 05-23-2016
(05-23-2016, 12:38 PM)Shiki Wrote:(05-23-2016, 12:24 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: As if 2 less Valors, 2 more snac GRN bombers would not have taken care of the noob huge LN bombers.
Looks nice in theory and implying that GRN all Valor pilots are to be good at snac, which is obviously cannot be a thing. Obviously most of those people who flying Valors cannot do anything in snubs. Maybe for you, person who always agitates to log opposite side to GRN it will be hard to admit that we simply had no enough players to counter it. While those few GRN bombers who tried to counter LN bombers were oppressed by fighters. Not to mention to say that numerous and 'noob' LN bombers were actually able to snac cougars.
GRN had 2 to 4 cruisers protecting their valors most of the time, these were equiped with razors and grinded 25% of the GRN kills. This is the only reason the snubs on the LN side became more capable pilots, aside from the Solaris gunboats. And since the GRN| stopped logging after the first few fights, it resulted in the bomber swarms becoming more effective for the LN. GRN had the numbers and people to counter it but they were after the cheap kills.
RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - Yber - 05-23-2016
Seafalcon, Chris and I were those bombers btw.
You literally had more valors, and at time razor cruisers, than LN had players. Most of which tanked valors on dreadnoughts or didn't use regens.
RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - Shiki - 05-23-2016
(05-23-2016, 12:53 PM)SeaFalcon Wrote: GRN has 2 to 4 cruisers protecting their valors most of the time,
GRN had logged 2-4 BCs most of the time? I've seen only 2 at one time, I think one of them had double razor, oh well. Any gunboat is the dead meat in one minute against this amount of bombers and fighters.
(05-23-2016, 12:53 PM)SeaFalcon Wrote: GRN had the numbers and people to counter it but they were after the cheap kills.
I was poking all chats, if you have seen enough people there... alright then.
(05-23-2016, 01:01 PM)Yber Wrote: Seafalcon, Chris and I were those bombers btw.Also Jack, welp, look at those bunch of newbie-easy-to-snac-LN-bombers.
RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - Wesker - 05-23-2016
LNS indies are dumb = win for GRN
I'm willing to hop against the GRN side if I'm with a BAF cap fleet because they actually listen to me and can think in a cap fight.
LNS indies just curse at you and call you dumb, they don't listen; they also lack any skill factor. Which hurts.
RE: Operation Tourbillon - Conclusion - SeaFalcon - 05-23-2016
(05-23-2016, 01:04 PM)Shiki Wrote:(05-23-2016, 12:53 PM)SeaFalcon Wrote: GRN has 2 to 4 cruisers protecting their valors most of the time,
GRN had logged 2-4 BCs most of the time? I've seen only 2 at one time, I think one of them had double razor, oh well. Any gunboat is the dead meat in one minute against this amount of bombers and fighters.
(05-23-2016, 12:53 PM)SeaFalcon Wrote: GRN had the numbers and people to counter it but they were after the cheap kills.
I was poking all chats, if you have seen enough people there... alright then.
(05-23-2016, 01:01 PM)Yber Wrote: Seafalcon, Chris and I were those bombers btw.Also Jack, welp, look at those bunch of newbie-easy-to-snac-LN-bombers.
And yet GRN made almost double the kills
