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RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - Trivjum - 10-23-2016
In fact look at that
Quote:Wrong way:
>Oh look there he is.
>Some people dont like you. Prepare to die!
Right way:
>Well well well... Look who it is. Looks like I found my mark.
>I've been looking everywhere for you. Where have you been?
>Oh did you know there is a bounty on your head? I saw it listed and damn it, I'd love to drag you into Justice myself!
>Prepare your escape-pod, you dirty crook. I'm taking you in whether you like it or not.
Literally 4 lines instead of 2. Where do you guys get "Shake hands" and "Life story" out of this shit?
RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - Typrop - 10-23-2016
(10-23-2016, 05:37 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: I was wondering how long it takes for you to bring out the "stop whining" card.
Basically it means that you have no other arguments and you want me to shut up.
Could that be because nearly everything you have said has been complaining in some way, shape, or form? 2 lines minimum can convey what they're doing, and why. Granted, some people do abuse this for the sake of 'hurr hurr let's just shoot this guy, he's takin' our jobs/won't give 2mil' Like I've experienced with Xenos and independent pirates.
Also, might I add that your masterful RP has consisted of grasping at straws in every single comms channel post just so you can make some connection between Nomads, the Congress, and Auxesia, due to the fact that you are incessantly annoyed at the fact that you've managed to piss off both Auxesia and the Congress? Not to mention being oh so funny with your engine innuendos in the middle of a search and rescue operation in Bering.
RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - Kauket - 10-23-2016
(10-23-2016, 05:47 PM)Trivjum Wrote: In fact look at that
Quote:Wrong way:
>Oh look there he is.
>Some people dont like you. Prepare to die!
Right way:
>Well well well... Look who it is. Looks like I found my mark.
>I've been looking everywhere for you. Where have you been?
>Oh did you know there is a bounty on your head? I saw it listed and damn it, I'd love to drag you into Justice myself!
>Prepare your escape-pod, you dirty crook. I'm taking you in whether you like it or not.
Literally 4 lines instead of 2. Where do you guys get "Shake hands" and "Life story" out of this *****?
Those can be set as set messages too. And it really depends on the character, not all of them reveal it's for a bounty, or how much effort they give.
In some cases, showing off too emotion for characters in their perspective, particularly agents, they want to avoid giving out details and get straight to the point, as emotion can give out details to the enemy.
Putting too much 'effort' into it - like those messages, can make the roleplay seem really sappy.
RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - nOmnomnOm - 10-23-2016
(10-23-2016, 05:46 PM)Auzari Wrote: So you're saying if I /l1 and /l2 traders to make sure they don't run off first hand, that I shouldn't be allowed to shoot them when they try to slip away after the initial demand?
So you are saying you cannot catch up to a trader?
So you are saying you cannot CD?
Or maybe you are using the wrong ship.
Non of this means that you have to Break the rules.
A pirate that tells a trader to stop several times and is ignored can still write some RP to lead to attacking.
There used to be an automatic message that said "Saying Engaging or Halt is not sufficient RP." This is still true.
>Hey trader. Stop right there.
>Did you hear me? I said stop. This is a hold up.
>You think you can handle it if you dont co-operate?
>I was going to give you an easy time and ask for a little, but looks like that leaves me no choice. You're mine!
RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - Trivjum - 10-23-2016
(10-23-2016, 05:49 PM)Auzari Wrote:(10-23-2016, 05:47 PM)Trivjum Wrote: In fact look at that
Quote:Wrong way:
>Oh look there he is.
>Some people dont like you. Prepare to die!
Right way:
>Well well well... Look who it is. Looks like I found my mark.
>I've been looking everywhere for you. Where have you been?
>Oh did you know there is a bounty on your head? I saw it listed and damn it, I'd love to drag you into Justice myself!
>Prepare your escape-pod, you dirty crook. I'm taking you in whether you like it or not.
Literally 4 lines instead of 2. Where do you guys get "Shake hands" and "Life story" out of this *****?
Those can be set as set messages too. And it really depends on the character, not all of them reveal it's for a bounty, or how much effort they give.
In some cases, showing off too emotion for characters in their perspective, particularly agents, they want to avoid giving out details and get straight to the point, as emotion can give out details to the enemy.
Oh come on, he gave that as an example and you know it. I know it's cool to RP edgelord mysterious characters because it's the fantasy of every kids but it doesn't make for good RP.
RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - Vendetta - 10-23-2016
If they don't stop after the first two lines, they aren't going to after the third or fourth. You're going to tell them you're going to shoot them and then you are going to shoot them before they thrust their way to the nearest base to dock.
RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - nOmnomnOm - 10-23-2016
@"Living Bullseye" I advise you to stay on topic. If you want to give me feedback, do so in the appropriate channel C:
I think also you are using the argument of "stop complaining" as an argument for everything someone has to say. It's not only rude, but it is also ignorant.
RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - Kauket - 10-23-2016
(10-23-2016, 05:51 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:(10-23-2016, 05:46 PM)Auzari Wrote: So you're saying if I /l1 and /l2 traders to make sure they don't run off first hand, that I shouldn't be allowed to shoot them when they try to slip away after the initial demand?
So you are saying you cannot catch up to a trader?
So you are saying you cannot CD?
Or maybe you are using the wrong ship.
Non of this means that you have to Break the rules.
A pirate that tells a trader to stop several times and is ignored can still write some RP to lead to attacking.
There used to be an automatic message that said "Saying Engaging or Halt is not sufficient RP." This is still true.
>Hey trader. Stop right there.
>Did you hear me? I said stop. This is a hold up.
>You think you can handle it if you dont co-operate?
>I was going to give you an easy time and ask for a little, but looks like that leaves me no choice. You're mine!
It's not breaking the rules to use set messages.
You don't quite get the point, timing is important in piracy. When I write, I usually write moderately lengthy sentences, depending on the type of interaction. And when I start writing, usually by mid way, traders will start to instantly cruise.
Which causes me to cancel out what I wrote, wasting time. Otherwise, I do the small words per sentence thing to allow CDs inbetween words. It's annoying and is far easier to use set messages.
"Hey. You.
Stop your fidgeting,
and clamp those engines. "
(10-23-2016, 05:52 PM)Trivjum Wrote: [quote='Auzari' pid='1832016' dateline='1477241395']
[quote='Trivjum' pid='1832013' dateline='1477241239']
Oh come on, he gave that as an example and you know it. I know it's cool to RP edgelord mysterious characters because it's the fantasy of every kids but it doesn't make for good RP.
No, it's called making a character believable. Agents of intelligence factions aren't going to tell you their story. And pirates will usually care for something else other than sappy life stories, and will pick at people for fun.
RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - Typrop - 10-23-2016
(10-23-2016, 05:54 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: @"Living Bullseye" I advise you to stay on topic. If you want to give me feedback, do so in the appropriate channel C:Oh, no. How dare I be rude to someone who keeps complaining about the ways other people RP, while also providing RP with no substance.
I think also you are using the argument of "stop complaining" as an argument for everything someone has to say. It's not only rude, but it is also ignorant.
The idea of you having no real RP high-ground was expressed in the last post. Of course, you completely bypass this for the sake of 'oh, you're just telling me to stop complaining.'
RE: One of those /1 /2 critique threads. - Trivjum - 10-23-2016
(10-23-2016, 05:57 PM)Living Bullseye Wrote:(10-23-2016, 05:54 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: @"Living Bullseye" I advise you to stay on topic. If you want to give me feedback, do so in the appropriate channel C:Oh, no. How dare I be rude to someone who keeps complaining about the ways other people RP, while also providing RP with no substance.
I think also you are using the argument of "stop complaining" as an argument for everything someone has to say. It's not only rude, but it is also ignorant.
The idea of you having no real RP high-ground was expressed in the last post. Of course, you completely bypass this for the sake of 'oh, you're just telling me to stop complaining.'
Please constructive criticism, Ad Hominem attacks are cool, I did it a bit myself in my last post but it contributes so little to the problem. A good argument should always be about the position they are maintaining and never against the person himself.