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RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Sombs - 02-26-2017
Boys, it's easy. The Admins can't check whether it's a multibox tool or a real person in most cases, so stop being rebellious for something that is justified and just deal with how it currently is. If you have a girlfriend, better do something else with her than powertrading. You're all in an age where you know what to do with each other.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Etaphreven - 02-26-2017
(02-26-2017, 03:27 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Boys, it's easy. The Admins can't check whether it's a multibox tool or a real person in most cases, so stop being rebellious for something that is justified and just deal with how it currently is. If you have a girlfriend, better do something else with her than powertrading. You're all in an age where you know what to do with each other.
I suggest reading everything before making silly replies based on nothing.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - sindroms - 02-26-2017
(02-26-2017, 03:26 PM)Etaphreven Wrote:(02-26-2017, 03:11 PM)sindroms Wrote: The rule was always there, but the reason why we adjusted and clarified it was not to allow players who play together get into trouble. There is no way to prove these situations one way or another and exceptions to this rule would be too problematic to track. In short, nothing in the rules regarding multiboxing has changed. It is a clarification due to specific instances.
As for your particular example, if your GF is contributing to the server enviroment and roleplaying, then there are no issues from where we stand. It is when people start having their 8yos help them mine is when we are crossing that line. It is no better than having a bot in that case. If a person is not contributing to the roleplay environment even if they are just helping you, we will not treat them as another player.
The issue with multiboxing has always been the most problematic to tackle. I suggest you accept this change as for the better.
We always roleplay when we play together. She's got a few characters but she's still learning the game. She doesn't care much about the money making part, just enjoys flying pretty ships and carrying RP cargo I guess. Sometimes we like delivering different cargo to different destinations in the same system. So the question is, should I be worried about sanctions in the rare situations when we trade together or should we just stop altogether? (which btw, we only have like 5700 cargo if you add our ships together, so only a bit more than a 5Ker that can be ran by a single person)
I mean it is obvious we are not powertrading together for cash, and while I do have a lot of cash, I made most of it playing alone (smuggling event and random trading/mining).
I am by no means asking for the removal of this rule, I just think it should be more relaxed, depending on the situation. Like you said, for example, if it contributes to the roleplay environment, it should be mostly okay. If it's just powertrading then clearly no.
If you are both roleplaying while flying, people encounter you and while doing so have no reason to think you are multiboxing? There will probably not be a report against you anyway.
Carry on.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Etaphreven - 02-26-2017
EDIT: removed long ass quote
Alright. Thanks for the clarifications.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Sombs - 02-26-2017
(02-26-2017, 03:28 PM)Etaphreven Wrote:(02-26-2017, 03:27 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Boys, it's easy. The Admins can't check whether it's a multibox tool or a real person in most cases, so stop being rebellious for something that is justified and just deal with how it currently is. If you have a girlfriend, better do something else with her than powertrading. You're all in an age where you know what to do with each other.
I suggest reading everything before making silly replies based on nothing.
Quote:(02-26-2017, 03:19 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: Spazzy does it matter if two people are in the same house and give money to the other or if that person is in a different house or place?
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Etaphreven - 02-26-2017
I am obviously referring to the other part of your comment, @"Sombra Hookier" . Y'know, what's around "The Admins can't check whether it's a multibox tool or a real person in most cases".
Regardless, your interference was pointless as usual. This is not the drama you're looking for.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - nOmnomnOm - 02-26-2017
What I ment to say is what if my friend that used to play the game decided he wants to play just to get the nostalgic feeeeeels back and we go smuggling for instance.
In the end, he wont have use of the money so he would just send it to me.
What does it matter if he would be in my place or we be separate? In both places, the end result is the same.
You are placing a stance that if a player plays he must be committed to the community or else he is just a bot.
Edit: Like i get you are doing this to make it easier for you to judge things, but still :|
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - sindroms - 02-26-2017
Actually, we can very well check whether or not the player are two players or someone trying (and failing) to fly alone.
This change is to make sure people understand that setting your 5yo, hamster, pet tentacle monster or whatever against the wheel of the second ship and saying it is legit will not fly. If the other player does not contribute to the roleplay environment and all of their earned credits are not being used by them to make that happen, we will treat it as cheating.
Plain and simple.
I suggest you wrap your head around it and stop asking philosophical questions. Each case is unique anyway and there are not enough asterisks to this rule we can put. Each reported case will be evaluated individually. If you are not doing anything dumb, you will be fine. We guarantee that.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Sombs - 02-26-2017
(02-26-2017, 03:34 PM)Etaphreven Wrote: I am obviously referring to the other part of your comment, @"Sombra Hookier" . Y'know, what's around "The Admins can't check whether it's a multibox tool or a real person in most cases".
[Blablabla]
We had multiple cases of people flying with "family members" during powertrading, like one guy claiming he was playing with his son. In formation. There is one thing having people actually being able to contribute to the environment by typing and doing stuff and there is the kind of people that have other "people" flying during powertrade. It's simple. Now if you ask me, I know better things to do with other people than powertrading. ;3
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Etaphreven - 02-26-2017
(02-26-2017, 03:45 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote:(02-26-2017, 03:34 PM)Etaphreven Wrote: I am obviously referring to the other part of your comment, @"Sombra Hookier" . Y'know, what's around "The Admins can't check whether it's a multibox tool or a real person in most cases".
[Blablabla]
We had multiple cases of people flying with "family members" during powertrading, like one guy claiming he was playing with his son. In formation. There is one thing having people actually being able to contribute to the environment by typing and doing stuff and there is the kind of people that have other "people" flying during powertrade. It's simple. Now if you ask me, I know better things to do with other people than powertrading. ;3
As usual, the first part makes perfect sense and is well known, you have added nothing to the conversation. Bragging about what you can do with your hands though is completely off topic. Nobody asked, nobody cares, it's your personal life.
EDIT: And with that, consider me out of this conversation. Spaz has clarified what I needed to know so it's over.