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RE: How to bring back Veterans - Mr.Fabulous - 08-10-2018
- 'Twould be nice to have a small emphasis on what the faction's activity main TRIFORCES are: Combat/Income/Roleplay.
- Combat: geared towards PvP, PvE, and any action involving shooting ships and players
- Income: geared towards money-making activities like trading and mining
- Roleplay: geared towards deep, complex roleplay involving lots of forumlancer and pen-before-sword activities
- Liberty Navy: Combat
- Liberty Police, Inc. (LPI): Roleplay, Combat
- Deep Space Engineering (DSE): Income
- Interspace Commerce: Income, Roleplay
- Liberty Rogues: Combat
- Lane Hackers: Roleplay, Combat
- Zoners: Roleplay, Income
- Combat: geared towards PvP, PvE, and any action involving shooting ships and players
- Rather than focusing on what specific other groups th'art going to interact with, try to make thy activities be based on more general groups. For example, Liberty Navy:
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SpoilerRE: How to bring back Veterans - Avalanche - 08-10-2018
(08-10-2018, 08:50 AM)Mr.Fabulous Wrote:
- 'Twould be nice to have a small emphasis on what the faction's activity main TRIFORCES are: Combat/Income/Roleplay.
For example:
- Combat: geared towards PvP, PvE, and any action involving shooting ships and players
- Income: geared towards money-making activities like trading and mining
- Roleplay: geared towards deep, complex roleplay involving lots of forumlancer and pen-before-sword activities
- Liberty Navy: Combat
- Liberty Police, Inc. (LPI): Roleplay, Combat
- Deep Space Engineering (DSE): Income
- Interspace Commerce: Income, Roleplay
- Liberty Rogues: Combat
- Lane Hackers: Roleplay, Combat
- Zoners: Roleplay, Income
- Rather than focusing on what specific other groups th'art going to interact with, try to make thy activities be based on more general groups. For example, Liberty Navy:
Excellent feedback. I'll take it all onboard as the idea is developed forward. Thank you!
RE: How to bring back Veterans - Sol - 08-10-2018
(08-10-2018, 08:35 AM)Avalanche Wrote: A solution to that is having events hosted with the ability for players to use a temporary event ship /restartme_eventship that will expire after the event.
Such as this event in a few days https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=163441
Not sure if events are the solution to this. If your only interest is not mindless pews.
>log and get in line
>read people you don't know trying to be funny and memes
>wait 20 min, cuz why would people show up in time
>pray you're not the first target
>shoot or dodge 5 min
>say goodnight
All events I have been in pretty much summed up.
RE: How to bring back Veterans - Venkman - 08-10-2018
(08-10-2018, 11:49 AM)Sol Wrote:(08-10-2018, 08:35 AM)Avalanche Wrote: A solution to that is having events hosted with the ability for players to use a temporary event ship /restartme_eventship that will expire after the event.
Such as this event in a few days https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=163441
Not sure if events are the solution to this. If your only interest is not mindless pews.
>log and get in line
>read people you don't know trying to be funny and memes
>wait 20 min, cuz why would people show up in time
>pray you're not the first target
>shoot or dodge 5 min
>say goodnight
All events I have been in pretty much summed up.
idk man, pre-arranged events are alright, but to me the random pews are just more fun. Like gather 3-4 people and try to find something to shoot.
RE: How to bring back Veterans - Lythrilux - 08-10-2018
The community has become too pvp phobic for natural pews to occur other than fairly rarely.
RE: How to bring back Veterans - Antonio - 08-10-2018
The idea is good, and it could live for a while but I don't see a long term prospect. As you said, maintaining it would be by far the biggest issue. As for the 2nd problem, people already know the routes and location of everything so it wouldn't be a problem.
(08-10-2018, 12:31 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: The community has become too pvp phobic for natural pews to occur other than fairly rarely.
I agree, what people often forget is that this game was purely a space combat simulator that Discovery slowly built into a roleplaying platform. Disregarding the former or only being here for the latter while all game mechanics point to it (every single ship has everything catered for combat, from guns to armor upgrades and whatnot) is ludicrous. I've no idea why would you even come to Freelancer and be afraid or flat out refuse to PvP. Skill's the problem? There are countless tutorials and people willing to help, nothing stops you from getting better except yourself (minus a physical injury/limitation).
That's why my statement PvP = RP comes up so often because people adjusted the combat to playing their role on a roleplay server through what game mechanics encourage you to do and what the game was made for originally, yet so many people are surprised when they engage in such form of roleplay. It's the purest, rawest, most direct and often most accurate form of roleplay and it's no less roleplay than typing walls of texts about who you drank tea with or shagged in your dreams.
RE: How to bring back Veterans - Karlotta - 08-10-2018
(08-10-2018, 12:56 PM)Antonio Wrote: I've no idea why would you even come to Freelancer and be afraid or flat out refuse to PvP. Skill's the problem?
In most cases disrespect is the problem. I have no problem dying in PvP. But if I'm facing a guy who I know constantly OORP taunts people, brags about his own skill all day long, who loves to get players angry and posts stuff like "get gut or get rekt", exclusively targets players who have no chance against him, or who shows disregard for the RP environment by using memey names or RP, there's just no reason to do him any favors.
RE: How to bring back Veterans - Lythrilux - 08-10-2018
(08-10-2018, 01:07 PM)Karlotta Wrote:(08-10-2018, 12:56 PM)Antonio Wrote: I've no idea why would you even come to Freelancer and be afraid or flat out refuse to PvP. Skill's the problem?
In most cases disrespect is the problem. I have no problem dying in PvP. But if I'm facing a guy who I know constantly OORP taunts people, brags about his own skill all day long, who loves to get players angry and posts stuff like "get gut or get rekt", or who shows disregard for the RP environment by using memey names or RP, there's just no reason to do him any favors.
IMO whilst such people can be problematic (I remember when the meme band of OP AI Drones killed the Omicrons for a bit), I've always felt they're a minority. As you integrate with the community more, taunting each other is done in jest and is banter. I.e I always tell Antonio how terrible he is in PvP, or how Thunderer tells Wesker how terrible he is in PvP. Etc. And the game has so many mechanics where even unskilled players can cheese blues off Pros.
RE: How to bring back Veterans - Antonio - 08-10-2018
(08-10-2018, 01:07 PM)Karlotta Wrote:(08-10-2018, 12:56 PM)Antonio Wrote: I've no idea why would you even come to Freelancer and be afraid or flat out refuse to PvP. Skill's the problem?
In most cases disrespect is the problem. I have no problem dying in PvP. But if I'm facing a guy who I know constantly OORP taunts people, brags about his own skill all day long, who loves to get players angry and posts stuff like "get gut or get rekt", exclusively targets players who have no chance against him, or who shows disregard for the RP environment by using memey names or RP, there's just no reason to do him any favors.
Then that someone is an asshole and doesn't deserve your attention in anything, not just pvp.
RE: How to bring back Veterans - sasapinjic - 08-10-2018
Quote:How to bring back Veterans?In 2 steps:
1. Read their leaving treads and see WHY they have left in first place .Basic of Medicine , in order to cure illnes,you must first find out what couse it.
2. Work on solving problems that coused veterans to leave .