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What is a Bounty Hunter - Agmen of Eladesor - 02-26-2009
' Wrote:So, is there anywhere we can see if the Hunters have rules in the Guild, all that kind of stuff ?
For independant hunters? No - because they're not part of an organization. They SHOULD be operating under the rule of 'thou shalt not attack unless there is a confirmable bounty on the unlawful person.
For organized hunters - well, Athenian set the bar high for everyone else.
S/D Faction Request Page
S/D Operating Manual
S/D Recruitment Page
S/D, Core vs Order weekly battle page
So, yes, we as an organization DO have rules - damned strict ones, too. We RP our jobs - and our job is to get paid for killing the trash of the universe. There've been many times I've flown right past a pirate ID'd character in Liberty because at that time, there was no bounty on a regular pirate. (Doesn't mean I didn't sit back a bit and harass the heck out of him in system chat, but that's part of it.) I did not instigate pew-pew.
I think that a lot of everyone's concerns, whether accurate or not, come from previous abuse of capships in house space. That should become a thing of the past in 4.85 - it's going to be hard enough just transiting if we need to from one sector to another with a cap ship.
Again, and I'll continue to repeat this since the majority of you know it's true - the vast majority of the issues caused by OoRP behavior on the server come from those people who are not members of this forum. Not picking on new players, but...
The number of times that I've seen new bounty hunter ships come out of Rostock with totally screwed up IFF is quite large. When I gently tell them that they need to get BH ID and BHG IFF, the usual comment is, "These missions here are hard to do that". Then I tell them - go to Sheffield, the bounty hunter base - and the usual response is, "Where's that?"
That's when you've got the 'I've been powertrading and I want a big ship'...
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Grimly, this has been settled a long time ago. If you're going to be a bounty hunter, then you may ONLY go after bounties on UNLAWFULS. You may NOT go after bounties on lawfuls. You better be a merc if you're going to do that. The ONLY time a hunter would attack a lawful would be at the request, as per house law, of the owning house faction. An example would be if a Kusari fleet came into Leeds and the BAF requested all hunters in their space to assist - under Bretonian law, you would then be REQUIRED to assist the BAF against the Kusaris.
What is a Bounty Hunter - Grumblesaur - 02-26-2009
Option five:
Kill-happy fools who search the Border and Edge worlds in Battlecruisers looking to kill Corsairs, Hessians, and Outcasts for a few credits. The rarer fighter-flying breed typically camps areas in California, Magellan, or New York and rarely goes to any other house, as they are content with making Lane Hackers, Rogues, and the occasional Outcast miserable by collecting on blanket bounties.
What is a Bounty Hunter - Thexare - 02-26-2009
' Wrote:The rarer fighter-flying breed typically camps areas in California, Magellan, or New York and rarely goes to any other house, as they are content with making Lane Hackers, Rogues, and the occasional Outcast miserable by collecting on blanket bounties.How many bounties are there in Rheinland or Bretonia?
Good, now how many of their targets are actually around?
Thought so. And we can't do a damn thing in Kusari, so... what, would you prefer if I dropped my Manta for yet another battlecruiser combing the Omicrons for fighters? Or are you just looking for things to whine about? I hunt bounties, and they're basically all in Liberty when I'm around.
What is a Bounty Hunter - kikatsu - 02-26-2009
I have to point out that the bounty hunters guild DOES NOT represent all bounty hunters
there are unlawful bounty hunters, attacking marked traders and police for profit...and I doubt they ally with the house police to pew pew pirates
What is a Bounty Hunter - Aaronny - 02-26-2009
' Wrote:I have to point out that the bounty hunters guild DOES NOT represent all bounty hunters
there are unlawful bounty hunters, attacking marked traders and police for profit...and I doubt they ally with the house police to pew pew pirates
Well if there are, i don't think they would be carrying BHG IFF or BH ID, and i never seen one of them because they would be Mercernary.
Anyway all i see so far from Bounty Hunters is ''Hey, you'r a pirate eh, wait a second i'll log on my Battleship even if you'r in a Bomber or a fighter''.
The only good BH i see are S/D and a few indie that are good RPers.
What is a Bounty Hunter - ProwlerPC - 02-26-2009
I chose #3, of course. S/D has been the first faction I've been apart of with my first char I made for the server. I joined in when it was just starting, so basically S/D's description reflects my view of bounty hunting.
Our portrayal of the guild has been one that is strict, organized, lawful and profit minded. Information is shared, equipment is shared, tactics are shared, and bounties are shared. I feel that those who work only for themselves with no loyalties are Freelancers as the BHG requires their pilots to adhere to policy (well S/D anyways)
What is a Bounty Hunter - Dashiell - 02-26-2009
I love the way some people vent their cropped up frustrations about hunters. suuuure, ALL hunters are BC-flying-fighter-shooting-pvp-whores. Only hunters do that. pirates are saints ofcourse. get off it.
btw: I miss the option: hunts bountied unlawfulls for profit and fights a war with nomads/order/corsairs in the omicrons to get nomad technolochy. and yes, the Core uses caps there. why? to wade through all the lunchboxes, dreadies, Osirisses, Huntresses and Praefacts flying there.
What is a Bounty Hunter - JakeSG - 02-26-2009
Chose option 3, but I'd like to add a little to that. I think they should be able to ASSIST lawfuls. Not pewpew unlawfuls at random, but in the event that the lawfuls are outnumbered, they should be allowed to help, bounty or not. Same with Merc's and Freelancers, I guess. I could give some RP reasons, but I see it as fairly self-explanatory, and am currently concentrating on evading asteroids.
What is a Bounty Hunter - Dashiell - 02-26-2009
' Wrote:Chose option 3, but I'd like to add a little to that. I think they should be able to ASSIST lawfuls. Not pewpew unlawfuls at random, but in the event that the lawfuls are outnumbered, they should be allowed to help, bounty or not. Same with Merc's and Freelancers, I guess. I could give some RP reasons, but I see it as fairly self-explanatory, and am currently concentrating on evading asteroids.
I agree with that... but I think that the lesser hunters will just use that as an excuse to jump in any fight claiming they are "assisting".
best solution would be (that`s the way I do it with my indie hunter) to ask if an lawfull in trouble wants help. no reply, no help. if he says no, I`ll be on my merry way. if he wants help, I help out. until the odds are even again, then I disengage. it works fairly well. especially if said lawfull sends some credits over for the help. that way you can rp it well, without pew-pewwing every pirate.
What is a Bounty Hunter - Athenian - 02-26-2009
The Bounty Hunters Guild in Freelancer is a lawful organisation allied with the police factions of Sirius. It is composed of former criminals and uses criminal tactics to hunt pirates for a reasonable fee, as well as providing other security services.
There is an organised elite within the Guild that commands vast resources and is looking to get the edge on Nomad technology.
All of this is found in the game.
The server rules mean that these Hunters cannot simply kill anyone who is unlawful. From this point of view, the BHG is almost entirely dependent on contracted work from other lawful groups.
I personally think that the BHG would be filled with very right-wing types. Perhaps even many of the people offered amnesty in exchange for signing up could become quite zealous as hunters. "Nothing more pure than a reformed hoor", as we say.
These other "bounty hunters" who perform unlawful killings are actually "assassins" and "hired killers". Calling them "bounty hunters" is confusing the issue. You don't get the cool-sounding name. That's ours. Stop pretending to be something you're not. You don't see the Liberty Navy creating a wing called "Liberty Rogue Squadron".
Basically speaking, if you are performing unlawful actions, you aren't a member of the BHG. And if you aren't in the BHG, you should avoid flying BHG ships (apart from the smaller ones).
Remarks that disparage the fact the BHG Core uses capital ships are unhelpful. There are as many pew-pewing BHG in big ships as there are decent role-players, just as you will find among certain pirate factions.
Many BHG players put up with all manner of snide and inflammatory remarks in game, on skype and on the forums by people who should know better - you know who I'm talking about: people who attack with odds of five to one or more. People who will happily attack a gunship or a bomber in their HUGE dreadnought or cruiser and will attempt to intimidate people or, worse, say "engaging" and open fire. And what's more, some of these inconsiderate amateurs then whine in game and threaten to report you and generally become bad sports because they got beaten by less powerful ships who think before they act.
But you won't find us making threads complaining about that here. Oh no. We suffer on. We keep working. Sometimes we work together; sometimes we work alone. The Guild is fragmented, but there are organised pockets - just like medieval guilds.
And one other thing. If my faction decides to make a bloody battlecruiser because we are developing our RP and want a flagship, we'll bloody do it. We've invested enough in our role-play to warrant it. If you don't trust us enough at this stage not to behave the way many players behave, ie unfairly, then you will never be satisfied.
Capships are not automatically a bad thing. Some people enjoy flying them and do a great job, exercising restraint and consideration.
It's a role-play server. BHG role-play is well established in game and on the forums. If you have a grievance with another player, then you should know how to deal with it by now.
There. My two cents. Probably worth less in this economic climate. But it's been a long day.