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Traders, opinions from a pirate - Jongleur - 09-01-2009
When you destroy any NPC ship in the game, you get a pilot. If you scan before, surprise, surprise you'll find the pilot for that ship as a cargo item, shielded and perfectly safe.. until you blow him to kingdom come, that is.
Traders, opinions from a pirate - Grail - 09-01-2009
The crew, the food, the oxygen, water, etc, you can use those to setup your ship/crew necessaties.
Dont use the dark shield or whatever to not use it. If you scan a NPC trader, fighter, cruiser, they have those or other items. When you scan a ship you just dont scan the cargo, you scan it all. So how you see the id, shield, thruster, etc?
I guess that, like the topic starter said, it helps the traders RP.
Just dont go LOLWUT and F1ed. Use some RP. Sometimes you meet nice pirates that they are just there to have some fun to.
Traders, opinions from a pirate - Grail - 09-01-2009
' Wrote:I do not fully understand why people bother to trade. Anything bigger than bomber is useless, right? Those bigger ships are here just to make missguided people trade, people think they will get something special, while in reality they get crap.
Therefore we can classify all traders in 2 categories:
1) Not very bright ones, who do not understand, that there is no point to trade apart from process itself;
2) Those who actually enjoy this process and like to chat (RP) with people they meet.
See? When you deal with a trader, you either deal with a fool or a weirdo. As a result only something strange or stupid is going to happen if you poke a trader.
This is why expecting traders to act in some way which you think is the correct way is naive.
I know people who like to trade. I also like to trade, meet new people, and discover new things. Now, i`m guessing you just a pirate, a BH or an order pilot, that just like some PVP, right? News flash, Disco has everything, we enjoy all parts of it, i even have some laughs when i see and read the LULWUTS commentaries.
Now go enjoy the game.
Traders, opinions from a pirate - Rocket.Mouse - 09-01-2009
Ahh! Now we get the ball rolling after a sketchy start.
Just to remind people, try pirating, chase some people down, hunt them ask em for their money and or cargo, see what happens. I'd hate to set up some kind of ratio but honestly out of the ones caught, you'll find a majority will be the "ur stupid, go head kill me LOL", and "i took food to corsairs a week ago" plus "u can't kill meh I is ally zoner" or the great *dock on pirate base.* Seriously, it happens alot, I can go to skype right now and see a list of names to screen shot before interacting.
We do not, as OPG, do not persue that many sanction reports, it wastes our time for a power-trader to get sanctioned, kinda like blowing up our money tree.
We are pirates, we take from people, heck I've taken everything from nuke mines off a freelancer to the hessain pilots off a low level freelancer IDed Camara. I fly to take your stuff, i am the scorpion- it's my nature. I made this to let traders know of the "secret loop-holes that impress us pirates enough that we will take it easier on you if you do." and most OPG agree with me.
I repeat myself from earlier, after reading countless threads I am offering advice from one pirate faction.
So some tips for going through the omegas....
*Carry lots of food (and gold, as someone brilliantly suggested)
*Have a good attitude, no "I'ma get joo wif my BH bombah" Lots of us like to talk, but we have been tricked many times before, so pay before the conversations.
*Stop when asked, offer up before the demand comes in....catches me by surprise every time! I had one trader come up to me and pay me direct without me asking! WOW! I told everyone to let em be for the rest of the day.
*Ask for a corsair approved route! (we secretly have many, and everyone loves artifacts, we'll show you to places you'd never think of going to, but the are illegal places)
*Don't be a pain, we have a running list of people we need to hit harder, yes, a list, and we do act upon it with our elephant like memories. Mainly people who have docked on our bases to log off, people who just insult us, people who trade with our enemies, lots of reasons to get on our list.
*Be smart, take an escort, gives you someone to talk to while your moving, and if you don't have one, ask a corsair to escort you, for a price you get to hear such classics like "Yar, and it's driving me nuts" and "Yo ho ho, space scurvy is no Jo-hoke"
above all, plan for it... We're corsairs, I'll call ahead to others if I miss you, and we know almost all the routes through our space.
Traders, opinions from a pirate - binTowers - 09-01-2009
' Wrote:I know people who like to trade. I also like to trade, meet new people, and discover new things. Now, i`m guessing you just a pirate, a BH or an order pilot, that just like some PVP, right? News flash, Disco has everything, we enjoy all parts of it, i even have some laughs when i see and read the LULWUTS commentaries.
Now go enjoy the game.
I am not sure what you did not like about my post. I pointed that there is no need to trade if you just want to chat (rp). There is also very little little need to trade if you want to pvp, as bomber is the most expensive of usable things. Trade for some 20 hours and you will have enaugh money for some fighters and bombers, why trade more? Therefore trading is a strange occupation.
Traders, opinions from a pirate - Jimothy - 09-01-2009
As I have previously mentioned, I don't just play a couple of Traders, I RP them, I remembered one particular guy that I spent about an hour trying to teach him how to RP. Traders are scared of pirates. If we were brave, we'd fly fighters and such. That's the basic rule I think, your character should be, or at least act, scared of the pirate. If you can follow that, you'll be fine.
As for trying to be a pirate, I've recently started a Lane Hacker character, after building what I think is a wicked biography for her, and will proceed to be nice(er) to RPing traders and mean(er) to the lolwutting interspace guys who dock on Mactan to avoid me.
DISCLAIMER: I have not experienced a lolwutting, Interspace Mactan docking, person yet, was a purely theoretical scenario, they won't even pass through Mactan space thb.
Traders, opinions from a pirate - Janus - 09-01-2009
' Wrote:Ahh! Now we get the ball rolling after a sketchy start.You were bound to get off to a sketchy start when you try to dictate other people's RP. Carrying spaceship crew is entirely at a players discretion, not carrying them makes me neither a powertrader or a bad rper. Neither does not putting food in my hold for my crew.
That said... I've considered carrying "bribe" cargo for pirates, food, consumer good or whatever but came to the conclusion on the routes I run it wasn't worth it. From an RP perspective, it's insurance, carry something more attractive for the pirates in the hope they'll take it and leave your real cargo alone. I don't get pirated enough to make it worthwhile, and when I do, it's usually by the kind that want cash or a pretty explosion. In that sense, carrying a full load everytime acts as insurance for when I have to pay a tax for my safe passage.
There are some Ifs.. there. If I ran in the Omega's, which is the perspective you're coming at this from, maybe I'd be inclined to carry food, as the Corsairs are apparently in need of this. However If I did so, would I need to carry a counterbalancing cargo that would interest the Red Hessians for fear otherwise they'd brand me a friend of the Corsairs? It comes down to knowing your "enemy" and in my case, they mostly want credits. My routes run from Liberty to either Bretonia or Kusari. I very rarely meet pirates in Bret or Kusari, and as yet, I have no idea what they might want as an alternative to credits, if anything. I mostly meet Outcasts in Liberty and I'm certainly not carrying Cardamine to buy them off with. How I choose to RP my trader is up to me.
My main trader, indeed main character, is a former LN Engineeer. He's been on the front line against Rheinland. He's experienced fear. After that, pirates just don't have it. He knows he's helpless and considers pirates a pest. A well armed pest yes, but still a pest. He sees no reason to be afraid of them, once they've extorted their pound of flesh, he's off on his merry way. Depending on my mood, the RP of the pirate and any other influencing circumstances, that can be anything from the length of time it takes to type /givecash to half an hour or more.
Criticise people for RPing sure, traders and pirates alike. Critcise blatently stupid RP. Don't criticise people for decent RP just because it's different to how you'd like it to be done.
Traders, opinions from a pirate - mwerte - 09-01-2009
See Janus' post.
I used to carry crew until I kept running into lolutting pirates who blew me up 5 seconds after their demand (one group of OPG blew me up after I paid...) and it just became not worth it to keep remembering to buy the stupid things. Does not having them make me a bad RPer? no. Does having them make me a good RPer? No. Having them means that I have 5 spaceship crew cargo commodities. Not having them doesn't mean that I don't have crew. No doubt this will be dismissed because I lead a trader corporation and my only goal is to "make money for a battleship lulz" but the point of fact is I don't enjoy trading that much. So no, I'm not going to spend my free time doing something that I'm not too fond of unless it's wanted by me. (Faction home system, shiny new cruiser, ect). I don't trade to lose money to pirates. Good pirate interactions make me happy, but they're not why I trade.
Traders, opinions from a pirate - darthbeck - 09-01-2009
i used to try carrying about 100-200 food on my whale, but NPC's keep taking it....
and i agree with a fair amount of what you've said rocket.
Traders, opinions from a pirate - Bazza - 09-01-2009
I once earned passage past a Liberty Rogue by wiring him pictures of my girlfriend skinny dipping.
Piracy doesn't always have to involve credits or cargo.....
:)