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+----- Thread: Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber (/showthread.php?tid=32681)
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - teschy - 01-10-2010
' Wrote:I don't see any Liberty influence what-so-ever, sorry.
![[Image: defenders.png]](http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9814/defenders.png)
Hey, a sculptor starts from a piece of wood, nothing more. Give it some time, throw your ideas in.
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - Irra - 01-10-2010
Wings are HUGE and WIDE! A lot..
Make central body a bit bigger but make wings smaller that thing will get shot down by snac in few seconds.
Notice how Fafnir and Mjor what ever is that SHF called have really small wings smaller then Wraith.. and they are very thin
But wings on this are bulky a bit too much i think.
Quote:13-ARKM-N37 "Fafnir" Bomber
Technical information
Guns/Turrets 2 / 2
Opt. weapon class 6
Max. weapon class 6
Additional equipment
* 2xCD/T
* 1xCD
* 1xCM
* 1xM
Hull strength 26,500
Max. shield class 10
Cargo space 150 units
Nanobots/Batteries 125/125
Max. impulse speed 80 m/s
Max. thrust speed 199 m/s
Power output 50,880 u
Power recharge 2,735 u/s
Additional information
Ship price $14,170,300
Package price $14,303,430
Quote:Li-127 Liberty "Justiciar" Tactical Bomber
Weapons: 2/2 (both turrets only fire backwards)
Equipment: 2x CD/HT, 1x CD, 1x CM, 1x M
Shield: Class 10 H.F. or Class 6 Fr.
Bots/Bats: 140/140
Hull strength: 25,000
Cargo space: 130
Power output: 47,000
Power recharge rate: 3,000
Price: $13,500,000 (plus included Deep Scanner and Adv. Protector H.F. Shield)
Leave balancing to balance teams.. you suck at it:D
Check ehm.. There is less hull then fafnir but more bots, less energy but higher regen.. doesnt make sense. And of It must have Fr shield just like Fafnir other way its useless.
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - Bad.Wolf - 01-10-2010
more looks like a intercepter, dont scarp the model, its good, just need to be added to something else, it doesnt fit the liberty..it fits more of the civy way..the engines look close to the eagle's engines.. in away
PS. good job
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - mjolnir - 01-10-2010
It doesn't resemble the other Liberty ships to me much, but that's just personal opinion.
Liberty does have too many ships, if we count outside the norm which is LF, VHF, Freighter, Bomber, GB, Cruiser/Destroyer/BS then we get:
Liberty +4 (Bomber - Havoc, HF, BC, BS)
Bretonia +1 (HF)
Kusari +1 (GB - Kusari Explorer)
Rheinland +3 (LF - Tigershark, SHF, Superbomber)
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - Kazinsal - 01-10-2010
Okay, I have some heads to smash...
It doesn't look liberty-ish because it's, as the infocard says, developed off of the Fafnir.
I agree, Liberty has a crapton of ships. Why don't we stop whining about it and build some more for the other houses?
And, with the blockiness of the ship, the FL engine will smoothen it a lot. The ship's only 1100-ish polys.
I don't balance ships. That's the dev team's job. Let them do it. Boss was in love with the power core, can we leave that like that pl0x?
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - Guest - 01-10-2010
' Wrote:Power regen is high, you've listed 3,000 power / second while the barghest is only 2,350 and the fafnir is only 2,735.From the looks of things, this ship is also a good deal larger than the fafnir. Thicker wings for starters.
BTW, Justicar is the proper spelling, not Justiciar, unless you're gallic or something.
Thats why "Justiciar" is on dictionary.com and not Justicar?
dictionary.com Wrote:justicar - no dictionary results
dictionary.com Wrote:jus⋅ti⋅ci⋅ar
/dʒʌˈstɪʃiər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [juh-stish-ee-er] Show IPA
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–noun
1. a high judicial officer in medieval England.
2. the chief political and judicial officer in England from the reign of William I to that of Henry III.
3. justiciary (def. 2).
' Wrote:I don't see any Liberty influence what-so-ever, sorry.
[clipped image of Guardian]
I see enough Liberty influence. Remember the basic model is the Fafnir.
http://i50.tinypic.com/scs7c7.jpg
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - Adam Peacecraft - 01-11-2010
Justiciar is too British then for a Liberty ship. Give the name to the Bretonians.
We've got the Guardian, Defender, Avenger, Upholder... why not call it the Enforcer, or the Sentinel, or the Champion, or the Preserver, or the Vindicator?
Thesauruses are useful.
Unless all those names are taken. Then, not so useful.
I like the ship design, though it does need more triangular geometry and less octagon, at least around the wings. I think the body can stay octagonal, since the other fighters have the same cylinder body shape.
The body doesn't necessarily need to be wider, but the wings feel stubby/insufficiently wide for such a long ship. I know that doesn't really matter in space, but it's all about aesthetics. Especially since being positioned so far to the rear would screw up the center of gravity big-time irl. Not that we care about physics irl (Independence War was awesome!), but I feel I should point it out as an aesthetic suggestion all the same.
The tips of the wings look really weird and non-aerodynamic. Can you change them to fins on the tips of the wings? It would really pretty those wings up a lot.
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - Kazinsal - 01-11-2010
Name's been changed to Vindicator. Way more Libertonian.
New pictures coming sooner or later.
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - Donutman - 01-25-2010
' Wrote:It doesn't resemble the other Liberty ships to me much, but that's just personal opinion.
Liberty does have too many ships, if we count outside the norm which is LF, VHF, Freighter, Bomber, GB, Cruiser/Destroyer/BS then we get:
Liberty +3 ( HF, BC, BS)
Bretonia +1 (HF)
Kusari +1 (GB - Kusari Explorer)
Rheinland +3 (LF - Tigershark, SHF, Superbomber)
Corrected.
Havoc is civilian. Also, I see no liberty influence in this thing, sorry.
Also, you forgot the transports. Include them (With small TP and Super TP as a given) and it's
Liberty +3 ( HF, BC, BS)
Bretonia +2 (HF, ConTrans)
Kusari +2 (GB - Kusari Explorer, ConTrans)
Rheinland +3 (LF - Tigershark, SHF, Superbomber)
Vindicator - Liberty Tactical Bomber - Asgardian - 01-25-2010
Although its not conventional Libertonian design...
I like it:)
A few jagged edges here, some cockpits there <strike>ten supernova cannons there</strike> and it'll look a bit more Libertonian. Good work though.