+- Discovery Gaming Community (https://discoverygc.com/forums)
+-- Forum: Discovery Development (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=7)
+--- Forum: Discovery Mod General Discussion (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=37)
+---- Forum: Discovery Mod Balance (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=31)
+---- Thread: Gunboat Balance (/showthread.php?tid=4827)
Gunboat Balance - galaktik - 12-05-2007
Or maybe to give all gunboats same number of turrets?
Gunboat Balance - RingoW - 12-05-2007
Couldn't you discuss this in a manner of RP instead of PVP, could you?
Always stats, stats and stats .... boring
Respectfully
AoM
Gunboat Balance - chopper - 12-05-2007
@galaktik
Yes, give them. If you are going to give them the same agility (and ya'r not).
Corsair gunboat is made like Titan. Slow, fat, powerfull.
@Enforcer
He can recover his shield only once, and not fully.
And no, he can't fully recover his hull 4 times. You are mistaken.
It takes him about 180 bots to recover from hull breach to full (if you have armor upgd).
So, 2 times max.
AoM - I don't know to discuss something like this in matter of RP. If you start, i will maybe be able to continue.
Except about Cruisers being fighter killers:D
Gunboat Balance - me_b_kevin - 12-05-2007
' Wrote:At this dimension he can recover FULL his shields/hull for 3 or 4 times in battles with only 350 nano/shilds. This is important to, becose a bigger ship runout of shileds after one recover for shields and for hull after 1-2 recoveries. And recive same or even more damage becose of his 0 maneuvrability in turet mode.
excellent point
as for discussing it in RP terms...
RP wise i don't see smaller ships taking out bigger ships...when i say ships i think of the modern ships namesake. fighters and bombers are different as history has shown that they can cripple big ships. but it still took a few well aimed shots to do it.
i don't think a small gunboat can take out a destroyer especially not a battleship...not saying it can't be done history also shows it can...saw a story on a small ship attacking a destroyer. it landed several good shots but it still lost in the end and the destroyer, although damaged, didn't lose.
gunboats should have smaller lesser damage turrets and as the ship size increases so should the firepower
Gunboat Balance - mjolnir - 12-05-2007
' Wrote:Gunboats are too much on the both sides.
They can massacre fighters (in large battles, not in solo fights, where 2 fighters can take down a gb), and can kill cruisers easily.
Ehm... that's not really true... have you followed the TBH/RM war?.... every GB that showed up got down very fast. Even one that came when it was 3on3.
My opinion:
GBs should be usefull against fighters/bombers (with the right loadout/pilot)
GBs should have some chance against caps (with a different loadout)
Cruisers should be anti-gunboats
I believe it was like this in 4.83.
Also it's difficult to say much about GB balance with the current Cerbs... both the Cerbs and GB agility is getting changed anyway (read what Igiss wrote in Balance Issues)
Gunboat Balance - RingoW - 12-05-2007
RP wise: If you think a GB should not be able to destroy a BS, don't atack a BS in a GB, even if it is able to destroy it. Just simple. Take your legs and run.
For example: If you are a lawful owning a GB go for patrol and kill pirate fighters. As soon as a D/Cr or BS is showing up, run and call for reinforcements and come back with a bigger brother.
Always people doing ruin their keybord by letting drop their spittle, when been aware of getting a BS sign on their GB.
it cannot not be, most of you are poor in imaginations.
Respectfully
AoM
Gunboat Balance - bluntpencil2001 - 12-05-2007
' Wrote:RP wise: If you think a GB should not be able to destroy a BS, don't atack a BS in a GB, even if it is able to destroy it. Just simple. Take your legs and run.
For example: If you are a lawful owning a GB go for patrol and kill pirate fighters. As soon as a D/Cr or BS is showing up, run and call for reinforcements and come back with a bigger brother.
Always people doing ruin their keybord by letting drop their spittle, when been aware of getting a BS sign on their GB.
it cannot not be, most of you are poor in imaginations.
Respectfully
AoM
I don't think that's the issue. Some people might play like this, acting like gentlemen, but we'll still see hordes of other people attacking battleships in gunboats, won't we?
Gunboat Balance - RingoW - 12-05-2007
A discussion about numbers won't do it as well. The PVP junkies willl just switch to the class, which will become the toughest.
Fight them and if they blow you, just ignore them. Sooner or later they will get bored if no one pays attention to them.
Today me (lvl 22) was blown by a (lvl 51) player. As i have seen later, it was not intentionally. Just many traffic and fights and me between. Have i reported? No. Was i screwed? No. Why? Its just a game and a nice one.
I will enjoy now to discover Discovery, indifferent how many times i will be blown up.
Respectfully
AoM
Gunboat Balance - alance - 12-05-2007
What in god's name are people talking about with stuff like "one GB should be able to kill a capship"? Gunboats -are- capships and they need to be meat for the beast if they fight a cruiser or BS one on one.
Assuming equivalent pilots...
Two gunboats should be able to take down a cruiser.
Two cruisers should be able to take down a BS.
Three or Four gunboats should be able to take down a BS.
One gunboat should kill a VHF 99% of the time.
One gunboat should be able to kill a pair of VHF about half the time.
One gunboat should be able to kill one bomber about half the time.
One bomber should be able to kill a gunboat half the time.
One bomber should be able to kill a cruiser half the time.
Two bombers should be able to kill a BS most of the time.
VHFs should be efficient at killing bombers.
VHFs should need large swarms to defeat capships.
There, now all Igiss has to do is rebalance everything to fit:D
Gunboat Balance - me_b_kevin - 12-05-2007
high five on that one Morrigan