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The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - Decktare - 12-14-2011
Gallic Unlawfuls
Sorry, wrong phrase.
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - varoshanin - 12-14-2011
This is very interesting story.
Nice job Zelot, really...
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - Avalanche - 12-14-2011
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[indent][indent][size=3][font=Arial Narrow][color=#CC0000][b]ID[/b] - [color=#FFFFFF]Ronin[/color]
[b]IFF[/b] - [color=#FFFFFF]Kusari Naval Forces[/color]
[b]Tag [/b]- [color=#FFFFFF]Ronin-[/color]
[indent][b]Leadership [/b]- [color=#FFFFFF]Zelot[/indent][/color][/color][/font][/size][/indent][/indent]
[color=#CC0000][font=Brush Script MT][size=6][center]The Kusari Exiles [size=4](4.86)[/size][/center][/size][/font][/color]
[indent][indent][color=#CC0000][font=Brush Script MT][size=6]Information[/size][/font][/color][/indent][/indent]
[color=#C0C0C0][size=3][font=Arial Narrow]Men, it is my responsibility to brief you today on the events of the last few weeks.
Every nation is measured by how it reacts to the dark days, and these are dark days for Kusari, and how we react will show future generations how the noble Kusari nation deals with adversity. We, here in the cloud in Newcastle, and those still loyal to us, we are the last vestiges of the true Kusari government. In the days to come our struggle will get harder, not easier. But out there, in our future, there is a return to Kusari, and a return to Kusari noble and honored past and future.
Things have happened quickly over the last few weeks, and we have found our situation dramatically changed. When the Gallic forced moved into Tau 31 and cut us off from the main body of the KNF in the Taus, politicians in Kishiros pocket, launched a political coup in the Council of the Rising Suns, using my absence to push through a change of government. These villains will have their time, but they cannot hold out against the true honor of Kusari, and the Kusari people will soon see that and demand change.
After a Gallic attack on my very own ship, the Satsuma in Leeds, and a fierce battle to help defend the Leeds Jumpgate, we were forced to withdraw, pulling back into the clouds on Newcastle, where we can safely launch operations, and maintain our supply lines, if needed through the Gaian base Skye.
The first thing this new farce of a government did was to make peace with Gallia, and the Bretonia. They have shown themselves to be weak, and the Kusari people will never accept a weak government for long. We could easily attack these forces, but it is not the pilots of the KNF who are weak, nor the soldiers who are evil, but instead the Kishro leadership that is at fault. We know though, that a direct confrontation will serve little purpose and only create ill will toward us from our people. We have seen how futile the Blood Dragons have been in over 400 years. We will not make this mistake.
We have had to make a hard choice, as we cannot maintain our fight against both the Gallic invaders and the Bretonian forces. The Bretonians have been honest enemies, as opposed to the Gallics, sending in spies, and bringing overtures of friendship while massing their forces. We have made an agreement with the Bretonians, who will help us with supplies, while we focus on our main goal, which is the defeat of the Gallic Navy.
So here we find ourselves, in a cloud in Newcastle, or in orbit of Harris, exiled from our home, until such time as we have redeemed ourselves to our people. We are not totally alone, we have true friends both here and in Kusari. The honorable pilots of the Farmers Alliance have remained loyal, even at the cost of their own status in Kusari, and their facilities in Tau 42, as well as their voice in Kusari will serve our struggle well.
Close to us, we have our old friends the Gaians, who have stood by us in our campaign versus the Bretonians. They have also been ousted from their home by the Gallic Navy, and we hope to continue our mutual support in planning and carrying out attacks.
From our headquarters, here in the Newcastle cloud, we shall begin to launch attacks against the GRN In Tau 31 and Leeds. Our ultimate goal of course is the destructions of the GRN, which will bring about our redemption in Kusari.[/font][/size][/color]
[indent][indent][color=#CC0000][font=Brush Script MT][size=6]Goals[/size][/font][/color][/indent][/indent]
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[img]http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/Flag-kusari.png/19px-Flag-kusari.png[/img] [color=#FFFFFF][b]1)[/b][/color] Strikes against Gallic Forces in Tau 31 and Tau 29.
[img]http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/Flag-kusari.png/19px-Flag-kusari.png[/img] [color=#FFFFFF][b]2)[/b][/color] Harassment of Gallic shipping in the Taus and outer Gallia, and the seizure of their cargo for our own uses.
[img]http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/Flag-kusari.png/19px-Flag-kusari.png[/img] [color=#FFFFFF][b]3)[/b][/color] Cooperate with the Gaian movement in gathering intelligence of Gallic movements.
[img]http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/Flag-kusari.png/19px-Flag-kusari.png[/img] [color=#FFFFFF][b]4)[/b][/color] Assist Bretonian Forces in defense of House Bretonia.[/font][/size][/color]
[indent][indent][color=#CC0000][font=Brush Script MT][size=6]Ranks[/size][/font][/color][/indent][/indent]
[color=#C0C0C0][size=3][font=Arial Narrow][indent][img]http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/Flag-kusari.png/19px-Flag-kusari.png[/img] [b]Forum Only[/b][/indent][color=#FFFFFF]▪[/color] [color=#CC0000]海軍中将[/color] - [color=#FFFFFF]Kaigun Chūjō[/color] [size=2](Vice-Admiral)[/size]
[color=#FFFFFF]▪[/color] [color=#CC0000]海軍少将[/color] - [color=#FFFFFF]Kaigun Shōshō[/color] [size=2](Rear-Admiral)[/size]
[indent][img]http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/Flag-kusari.png/19px-Flag-kusari.png[/img] [b]Playable[/b][/indent][color=#FFFFFF]▪[/color] [color=#CC0000]海軍大佐[/color] - [color=#FFFFFF]Kaigun Daisa[/color] [size=2](Captain)[/size]
[color=#FFFFFF]▪[/color] [color=#CC0000]海軍中佐[/color] - [color=#FFFFFF]Kaigun Chūsa[/color] [size=2](Commander)[/size]
[color=#FFFFFF]▪[/color] [color=#CC0000]海軍少佐[/color] - [color=#FFFFFF]Kaigun Shōsa[/color] ([size=2]Lieutenant-Commander)[/size]
[color=#FFFFFF]▪[/color] [color=#CC0000]海軍大尉[/color] - [color=#FFFFFF]Kaigun Daii[/color] [size=2](Lieutenant)[/size]
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[indent][indent][color=#CC0000][font=Brush Script MT][size=6]Allowed Ships[/size][/font][/color][/indent][/indent]
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[img]http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/Flag-kusari.png/19px-Flag-kusari.png[/img] [color=#FFFFFF][b]Snub Craft [/b][/color]
[indent][color=#CC0000]■[/color] Wyrm
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Samura Scout
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Ki
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Saishi
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Dragon
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Chimaera
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Wasupu
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Touketsu
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Umibozu[/indent]
[img]http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/Flag-kusari.png/19px-Flag-kusari.png[/img] [color=#FFFFFF][b]Capital Craft[/b][/color]
[indent][color=#CC0000]■[/color] Kusari Gunboat
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Ahoudori
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Kusari Destroyer
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Kusari Battle Cruiser
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Kusari Battleship[/indent]
[img]http://discoverygc.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/76/Flag-kusari.png/19px-Flag-kusari.png[/img] [color=#FFFFFF][b]Logistic Craft[/b][/color]
[indent][color=#CC0000]■[/color] Drone
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Anki
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Akegata
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Big Dragon
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Bumblebee
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Geisha
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Ryuujin
[color=#CC0000]■[/color] Renzu Liner[/indent]
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[indent][indent][color=#CC0000][font=Brush Script MT][size=6]Zone Of Influence[/size][/font][/color][/indent][/indent]
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[indent][indent][color=#CC0000][font=Brush Script MT][size=6]Diplomacy[/size][/font][/color][/indent][/indent]
[center][size=3][font=Arial Narrow][color=#33CC00]Farmers Alliance
Samura
Gaians[/color]
[color=#FFFFFF]Bretonian Lawfuls
Sirius Lawfuls
Gallic Unlawfuls[/color]
[color=#FF6666]Gallic Lawfuls
Outcasts[/color]
[/font][/size][/center]The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - AeternusDoleo - 12-14-2011
A FYI. While the Yamaguchi will be hiding in the nebulas, the Nagasaki will be quite overtly holding position by Stokes, basically serving as a frontal base for operations into Tau31. Also, on your ZoI map you have Tau42 (KSP guard system) included but you have no path towards it. I'm assuming that was an oversight.
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - xiphos - 12-14-2011
' Wrote:A FYI. While the Yamaguchi will be hiding in the nebulas, the Nagasaki will be quite overtly holding position by Stokes, basically serving as a frontal base for operations into Tau31. Also, on your ZoI map you have Tau42 (KSP guard system) included but you have no path towards it. I'm assuming that was an oversight.
Hm, you mean Tau 45 (Xenos Guard System) maybe? Tau 42 is the Farmers Alliance Guard System. But nonetheless i am curious about Tau 45...
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - JIVA - 12-14-2011
there are two concerns that have already been mentioned:
- the ZoI:
concepts of a ZoI are and have always been flawed. - for some factions they describe where they can go and opererate without "getting in trouble with the rules" for others they describe a literal "zone of interest" - which can be extended if interest includes more.
what i d like to see is a more "refined" faction description.
something like this is where we operate, this is were we would NEVER go beyond ( like most of kusari, cause thats the point of it - not to go there - so you don t loose your face/honor ) - and that is where we may go, if a critical situation may arise.
- the alliances
i have never been too comfortable with the entire "now that we face a stronger common enemy, we have to work together". for years ... kusari forces have killed thousands if not millions of bretonians - and vice versa. now that the french show up, they work together.
so far so good - although they didn t even manage it against the nomads. ( but that might be cause they were not aware of the threat )
i would however like to address that - in contrast to rheinland, where ... in the war vs. liberty .. the nationalistic unlawfuls would fight liberty alongside with the lawful forces - the bretonian unlawfuls have not done so ( which only kind of includes the gaians, cause the mollys are somewhat special in that regard )
gaians have always been hostile to bretonia and bretonians interest - cause bretonia has never ceased to pursuit their ambitions with planets like gaia and carysle ( of whatever the planets name was in newcastle )
there i agree with what was said before....
- either ally yourself with the lawfuls ... OR the unlawfuls - cause
- from what i know.... gaians will keep fighting bretonians in 4.86 ( won t they? )
*edit: but if the NLH have agreed to such a "green" state - it is OK, i guess
personally - i think that an alliance with the gaians would be most probable .... but that doesn t help the exiles much. gaians have no real shipyard etc. . there has been a mutual friendship well before the events. - so from a RP pov, i d say - the exiles NEED bretonia, but that would kinda ruin their friendship with the gaians.
there is one more thing:
- you listed the ships and equipment you re going to use.
- is that an honest list? - or will that change according to the diplomacies you forge .... if that is the case
- you may also list ships and equipment that you "may" use
- and i m not sure about the maintenance of such a fleet. - do the bretonians allow maintaining the fleet? ( provided one needs a fully fletched shipyard to do so.... )
in general - the idea is good. - but the story has some holes ( which we discussed on the dev skype channel already ) - i do especially have some trouble comprehending the rather flawless transition from one emperor to a new one - from samura to kishiro - without all of kusari ( which was - according to the lore - vertically run through by those cooperations ) - i d expect much MUCH more turmoil.
especially - those forces that are now left behind in kusari - which are loyal to the new goverment - would consider the exiles to be a threat. - possibly even hunt them down.
i m not sure what future the exiles actually do have. - it reminds me of what the apocalypse had to endure. ( for those that don t remember - a renegade BHG core wing )
- admins made it so that their ships - due to a lack of maintenance - would be "destroyed - permanently" when being destroyed
*that only happened in the very end, when they were pushed to deploy in omicron kappa.
the principle is similar though. - a fleet with no home - and no chance to come back.
edit:
all in all - i think the faction is quite interesting. - but i also think that it should be a lot more complex and complicated than it is presented here. the conflict of honor, the denial of going home, the uprising of a new emperor at home, an invasion of a superior foe, the lack of infrastructure and resources, the warrior code.
all that is a GREAT pre-requisite for roleplay - and it would be very sad when it all came down to just another pvp / combat orientated faction. ( no, you haven t written that down ) - i d like to see the interconnectiveness of the political and social interdependencies displayed. the "shame" of allying with a former enemy, the shame of having been replaced by an uprising emperor, - the fall of grace from warriors to exiles.
the faction is not fighting for survival - that is easy. the faction is fighting for re-gaining their honor - ... but how can that be reflected in their RP.
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - West - 12-14-2011
' Wrote:- the ZoI:Tau 29, 23, 44 and especially 42 will play vital role in upcoming role play of ronins. Tau 45 might be oversight... since it has no connections with rest of tau claster, same goes for 65 and 63... they are just in tau claster... but I doubt we will ever use them.
Quote:- the alliancesWell Gaians always were friendly with kusari. Bretonia were hunting gaians, we were hunting bretonia... now GRN crushed them... and we are fighting GRN, do not see a problem with them as friendly/allies...
Alliance does not meen that we will help them fight with bretonians... nope, probably only exchange of information and usage of bases when noone see it.
Quote:there is one more thing:I'm strongly against any other ships except KNF, but since renzu ships are avaliable for all... and kusari made... you might see us using HF(since knf don't have one), LF if someone got bored from wyrm and etc.
- you listed the ships and equipment you re going to use.
- is that an honest list? - or will that change according to the diplomacies you forge .... if that is the case
- you may also list ships and equipment that you "may" use
- and i m not sure about the maintenance of such a fleet. - do the bretonians allow maintaining the fleet?
List of possible ships... no idea, but part of our RP is to stay only with kusari ship.
maintenance of fleet? I'm sure all fighters/bombers and even GBs can be maintained on BSs if there is enough resources, as for caps.... about what maintenance are you talking about? they are holding positions... hiding in asteroids.. no "clear" battle engagements.
Not sure if brets allowing us to do that "no idea what you talking about" but it's in their best interest.
Quote:all that is a GREAT pre-requisite for roleplay - and it would be very sad when it all came down to just another pvp / combat orientated faction. ( no, you haven t written that down ) - i d like to see the interconnectiveness of the political and social interdependencies displayed. the "shame" of allying with a former enemy, the shame of having been replaced by an uprising emperor, - the fall of grace from warriors to exiles.
the faction is not fighting for survival - that is easy. the faction is fighting for re-gaining their honor - ... but how can that be reflected in their RP.
I doubt that you will see alot of "shame" onforum... but it will be ingame for sure. Shame/hatred/other stuff.
Quote:especially - those forces that are now left behind in kusari - which are loyal to the new goverment - would consider the exiles to be a threat. - possibly even hunt them down.I really like this one... how can they hunt them down.. if they do not meet them? + from the story... soldiers were eager to return and rescue all those who were trapped.
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - AndrzejB - 12-14-2011
@OP:
Gaians. They may don't like being neutral with Bretonia lawfuls. Because, let's face it, Kusarian hostility toward Bretonia seems to be main visible reason for the friendship that had existed before, from the Gaians perspective.
On a related note: what is the Gaians stance toward new Kusarian government? Neutral-friendly?
This + neutral toward Gallia = does it make any sense?
Why would the Brets not treat the Kusari Exiles/Ronin like they, inRPly, may deserve? They consist of guys most responsible for the war while the current (.86-current) Kusarian government signed a peace treaty. One might speculate whether Bretonia would support them to such extent (storyline does not make it precise).
I'd rather expect some of the Ronin/Kusari Exiles officers arrested for war crimes (storyline-wise Bretonia has enough pilots to man their craft - see the Space Volunteer Corps thing flying civilian fighters). Okay, every enemy of my enemy is a Mother Theresa, but let's not overestimate it. Bretonia signing an armstice with Kusari while openly supporting a group hostile to the Kusarian government - it rather calls for silent, unofficial support. So don't get caught working with Bretonia, too.
In Newcastle there are also Mollys and Outcasts. How do you expect them to react to a foreign fleet lurking in the system?
It would make sense for the Ronin not be exiles but guerilla fighters. Operating from Hogosha and Farmers' bases in Kusari (maybe even Samura facilities, when nobody can see it). If they have to be in Bretonia (storyline...), make them a guerilla group, snubcraft only, and it will make sense. And create a nice, tense situation.
Edit: Ninja'd. Like Kusari in .86.
Edit2: It would be fun to watch the Ronin to gradually employ more and more civilian craft and guns. :-)
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - Drider - 12-14-2011
Zelot - one question.
People are giving you certain feedback - are you going to listen to them?
Because if you dont, well.. any complaining or arguing is just pointless.
The Kusari Exiles (4.86) - AeternusDoleo - 12-14-2011
Yeh. Tau 45 really needs a rename. It's not even part of the Tau borderworlds cluster. I'mma raise a dev ticket on that methinks...