4.86 Event Two Thread - Printable Version

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4.86 Event Two Thread - Cond0r - 06-20-2010

Well, speaking from my experience, I can say what I saw. There was a group of nomads at iota hole. Keepers and indies, and the Keeper (FL) says: "Ok well I'm gonna make a group with Keepers, and you indies make a group of your own."

Yes, those were his words so, dunno :\

4.86 Event Two Thread - Rapur - 06-20-2010

' Wrote:Well, speaking from my experience, I can say what I saw. There was a group of nomads at iota hole. Keepers and indies, and the Keeper (FL) says: "Ok well I'm gonna make a group with Keepers, and you indies make a group of your own."

Yes, those were his words so, dunno :\

Nerf Keepers : ))

4.86 Event Two Thread - Treewyrm - 06-20-2010

Right at the beginning a lot those nomad indies there didn't want to listen at all, let alone follow the orders. Some even started shooting others. And some were quite eager to shoot my camera ship as well, which frankly is a very stupid thing to do. I've been a couple of times in that indie chat, I read things there. I tried talking - nobody listened, majority were concerned with spamming lulzy messages. Like someone said: "you're just a camera guy". Okay then. Camera guy then simply does camera stuff.

Keep in mind a lot players jumped on Nomad ships simply because it's the only chance they've got to play those. Excitement abound and many weren't in condition to follow the orders.

Another thing you guys forget we don't have indies on the main server, as such we are used to rely upon ourselves, working in a tight-knit team where people know each other well enough. It's not about "elitism" or anything like that - it's just how we're used to play for many years. While BHG and Order have numerous indies, among which a backbone of indie players ready to follow official factions' orders. They're used to that, while it's common for them it is not common for us. So not the case here - there was no such backbone, it doesn't just form in a day or two. Especially when a bunch of players just start flooding chats with "quack quack" and other nonsense. That's quite easy to criticize when one's got bananas in ears.

But tell me did you really need orders? Simply following the keeper group of players where they go, doesn't sound complicated.

I would tried leading indie group if it weren't for: a) some cretin shooting my camera ship; b) lulzy spam in which whatever said drowns quicker than you can read the message;

But seems like you didn't want me to.

4.86 Event Two Thread - Cond0r - 06-20-2010

' Wrote:Another thing you guys forget we don't have indies on the main server, as such we are used to rely upon ourselves, working in a tight-knit team where people know each other well enough. It's not about "elitism" or anything like that - it's just how we're used to play for many years. While BHG and Order have numerous indies, among which a backbone of indie players ready to follow official factions' orders. They're used to that, while it's common for them it is not common for us. So not the case here - there was no such backbone, it doesn't just form in a day or two. Especially when a bunch of players just start flooding chats with "quack quack" and other nonsense. That's quite easy to criticize when one's got bananas in ears.

Fair enough.

4.86 Event Two Thread - Sprolf - 06-20-2010

Leadership is often needed most where it isn't wanted...

First stage of followership - unwilling and unable.
(Second is willing but unable, third is unwilling but able, and fourth is willing and able.)

Of course, the appropriate style of leadership to respond with (authoritarian) is slightly harder to implement in-game than in real life. That doesn't mean it can't be done.

4.86 Event Two Thread - Curios - 06-20-2010

Well, that mean you have a lack of organization skills to make people listen to you, so, you made a little party of people that you know and can control easier then indi spam, so now everyone should be happy.
I was on BHG side, and there is alot of indies too, but time to time there where peoples who organized things and made that swarm working well. I think order have indi problem too as well, so if you can't organize nomads then blame yourself. Use capital letters, scream on people, overuse setmsg tool, it always works. Tell people where to go and where to shot. And that's will be fine. Being in Nomad side i rarely heard [FL] or whatever who called targets good.

4.86 Event Two Thread - Cond0r - 06-20-2010

' Wrote:Leadership is often needed most where it isn't wanted...

First stage of followership - unwilling and unable.
(Second is willing but unable, third is unwilling but able, and fourth is willing and able.)
Of course, the appropriate style of leadership to respond with (authoritarian) is slightly harder to implement in-game than in real life. That doesn't mean it can't be done.

Thank you for your wisdom, oh great one

4.86 Event Two Thread - Govedo13 - 06-20-2010

Anyway let em be....
Here some screens:

I noticed that the nomads dont have shield-buster bomber guns witch is a problem when you are after Orcas for example.

Mako spam blasted me so fast that I even didn't used bots.

Nice View

My solaris cruiser get owned by BGH bomber wing.

Osiris go down...

The strangest cockpit view ever- it is supposed to be organic? And you cannot see anything because of the purple thing. Anyway the jelly ships are funny ones.

4.86 Event Two Thread - Curios - 06-20-2010

P.S. Marduk's first person view is terrible.

4.86 Event Two Thread - Treewyrm - 06-20-2010

Tip: If you want to use cockpit mode for nomad bs go into preferences and tone down effects setting - it'll make the purple go away. That purple thing you see is actually a part of the engine effect, that beam going through the model. Models for cockpits aren't top priority on my modeling list right now. If you want to make one - feel free, I'll be very happy and grateful.