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Reaver Mercenary Co. - Black Widow - 06-17-2011
' Wrote:Alright. I'll generalize it.
IMG - Corsairs hostile towards each other
Can you fix that please?
About that dumb excuses for 'individuality'... Does this mean every member of every faction is solely responsible for his acts? Faction has nothing to do with it, am I right, mods?
How do you comment on this then?
You all bashed that faction out of it's existence based solely on it's leader doing something that has nothing to do with that exact faction.
Isn't Silver.Reaver like, in charge now, with Dusty away?
Hipocracy much?
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I wasnt going to get involved but seeing choppers post has just shown me the Complete Hypocrite Kalliste is,
You cannot rule law about anything but doing so about some ones weaponry when infact your committing same said tech violations just makes you look the right idiot and complete joke. I think if Teschy was there to execute a bounty then you should have just dealt with it inRP rather than yelping out childish ooRP remarks.
You have Lost the Arguement, on this occasion purely based on your Tech Hyprocracy .I think reason why you have a gun loadout that is not allowed is because of your IMG past involvement, at least in the Tech Chart Teschys Loadout was somewhat Legal.
Reaver Mercenary Co. - Hexx - 06-17-2011
Does this mean we should never use names when bringing to light bad form on the part of a faction member?
"What's the deal with _______? He's using Vampires and Coladas together, and he's going ooRP in system. I'm afraid that ________ is not setting a good picture for the Reavers."
That's terribly silly. People need to face the music, not hide behind "trial by forum" claims. This is a faction creation thread. The issues FOR and AGAINST the faction being made official need to be brought to light. That's the very purpose of this.
Reaver Mercenary Co. - Daedric - 06-17-2011
' Wrote:As for the Reavers, it's not about loadout, it's about conduct. I am concerned about a faction going for official status doing things it does, so I'm expressing my concern.
Please elaborate on your issue with our conduct. Your issue. Not Teshcy's.
Reaver Mercenary Co. - McNeo - 06-17-2011
' Wrote:Your feedback is directed at a single individual, not at the faction. You even admit you aren't trying to generalize the Reavers; that you feel Silver has an issue.
That is not feedback in regards to the Reavers, that is a personnel issue with Kaze. It doesn't belong here.
I suspect it's the dismissive attitude of issues that affect the public perception of the Reavers.
Just a hunch though.
In reply to the below:
There is nothing to discuss about this:
' Wrote:
* Technology from factions that are hostile to each other may not be combined. For example, a Mercenary cannot use Bretonian weaponry on a Kusari ship. Also, technology cannot be used if it belongs to a faction that is hostile to your IFF/Tag. For example, a Mercenary with a Bretonian IFF/Tag cannot use any Kusari technology. IDs that are only granted by the Admininstration may allow these hostile combinations, if approved (Terrorist ID, Special Operative ID, etc).
Reaver Mercenary Co. - Zelot - 06-17-2011
Ok first things first,
I should have had another moderator come in here and make that post. That is my mistake, I take full credit and responsibility for it. That being said, I really didnt feel it was a big issue, because this wasnt a black and white issue. If you take a look at the feedback posting guidelines that were recently posted, what I said is 100% acurate and in following them.
' Wrote:Faction review and feedback is intended to provide a forum for raising out-of-roleplay issues concerning official factions on Discovery RP 24/7.
All discussions must be conducted in a reasonable manner. If you post while annoyed, it will most likely reflect poorly on you. This applies to all parties concerned.
The only issues that may be raised here:
1) Issues surrounding grossly unbalanced or inappropriate technology use, including the exploitation of combinations of equipment not intended by mod developers. This does not include complaints about equipment which was approved by administrators, such as those granted when a faction was created.
To check what ships and weapons factions are permitted, you may be forced to check any deals they made with other factions at http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=32197
as well as their original faction creation request at http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showforum=96
and any special roleplayed permissions they were given at http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=50277
2) Abuse of faction rights, i.e. the exercise of power for its own sake without sufficient justification.
3) Poor in-game behaviour, characterised by repeated incidents which are harmful to server gameplay, and not merely once-off incidents or the exercise of tactical advantage, such as outnumbering, outgunning or outthinking an opponent.
Any player hoping to raise other issues or making unfounded allegations lacking evidence are advised to demonstate prudence before posting. Once posted, it is impossible to take a comment back.
Complaints will be adjudicated by administrators only if discussion reaches an unsatisfactory conclusion.
I have underlined and bolded the important part to the post that I made. I also though there was something in there about not brining issues about a single player in here, but I must be mistaken.
So in summary, I should have handled it differently, I am sorry, that said, individual discussion about a single incident with silver reaver is not appropreate for this thread. Discussion of Corsair and IMG weapons being used together is.
If you feel my apology is not enough and you need a pound of flesh to go with it, you are more than welcome to report me to the admins and ask them to punish me in some way.
Reaver Mercenary Co. - chopper - 06-17-2011
' Wrote:Please elaborate on your issue with our conduct. Your issue. Not Teshcy's.
I have an issue with your conduct towards Teschy. And all this crap about 'being personal' and your attitudes by themselves lead towards me being against your faction going official.
While Dusty was in charge I could at least expect a decent answer without all this bitching, witch was by itself enough for me to watch you go official.
And I have every right to write here, in this thread, that I am against your faction going official, and use other's people proof for it.
Reaver Mercenary Co. - Daedric - 06-17-2011
' Wrote:I suspect it's the dismissive attitude of issues that affect the public perception of the Reavers.
Just a hunch though.
' Wrote:Complaining about two lines of out of character speech is BLEH. Especially since all that was provided was a very selectively edited image. Being so selective in the edit leads me to believe that there is something to hide on the part of the person providing the proof.
As for the claims about fair play and sportsmanship. Both are subjective. What one person feels is fair and what another person does won't always jive. Sportsmanship? Same as fair play. Though, I'm not entirely sure why I even bothered with that claim. Since it is merely a claim with no supporting proof. If you think Kaze is so bad and it is such an issue, why have you failed to provide anything that supports your claim?
I fly with Kaze frequently and I've never seen poor sportsmanship displayed. As for the rest of it? I'll leave that up to the boss when he is online. I will ask that if you are going to make claims like Teschy has made, that you at least have proof to support them. Same as what 90% of other factions ask.
I guess it is convenient to dismiss a post as a means of proving your point, si?
Anyways, I'm out. When the boss gets on, he'll handle what hasn't already been handled.
' Wrote:I have an issue with your conduct towards Teschy. And all this crap about 'being personal' and your attitudes by themselves lead towards me being against your faction going official.
While Dusty was in charge I could at least expect a decent answer without all this bitching, witch was by itself enough for me to watch you go official.
And I have every right to write here, in this thread, that I am against your faction going official, and use other's people proof for it.
Please elaborate on how our conduct towards Teschy is bad? The only valid issue he brought up was a tech usage issue. The rest of it was utter crap. Claims without proof and very selectively edited proof of two lines of out of character. Per the guidelines Zelot has quoted, most of his feedback was BLEH. So I was dismissive about it. Are you upset I dismissed feedback even the admins have deemed BLEH?
Reaver Mercenary Co. - Dab - 06-17-2011
Okay, this has gotten ridiculous.
No more discussion on Silver Reaver's two lines of OOC chat unless it happens again. It's been mentioned, it didn't need to be, but it was, okay. It was, however, presented through the use of edited screenshots, and it was presented in a hostile and rude manner. From years upon years of evidence, we all know being hostile and rude in a faction feedback gets you nowhere. Fix this, or don't post in feedback threads. This also goes for those who responded in hostile and rude manners.
And now we end the conversation on Silver Reaver's lines of OOC. If it happens again, post in here if you like, but we've beaten that horse to a bloody pulp on this one instance. Further posts on the OOC issue will be removed.
Mod face off. I have a small problem with Reavers on something.
Yesterday we got a report on Skype that one of the Reavers (can't remember which) wasn't hostile to BAF NPCs, and was attacking BAF around the Essex. I aske one of your members if they could mention it in your chat so you could do a quick repfix on yourselves. Unfortunately, I found another report by BMM that it happened again, again at Essex, again not hostile to NPCs.
Please fix this on whichever of your ships aren't hostile.
Reaver Mercenary Co. - SpaceTime - 06-17-2011
Regarding the weapons. IMG never granted weaponry to the Reavers, CR did.
And as far as I know CR isn't hostile to the Corsairs. However, I am really curious to see if the CR tech will be used against CR like it happened with the sairs.
Reaver Mercenary Co. - chopper - 06-17-2011
' Wrote:Regarding the weapons. IMG never granted weaponry to the Reavers, CR did.
And as far as I know CR isn't hostile to the Corsairs. However, I am really curious to see if the CR tech will be used against CR like it happened with the sairs.
It doesn't matter who granted it, it's IMG technology, and it's being mixed with Corsair technology - which is a no-no. I am not even convinced CR can grant IMG technology, if we follow the rules. Just like FA can't grant Black Dragons, but can use them.