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Corsair - Zoner - Reacher - 02-07-2012
' Wrote:blodo. just say me one more npc faction that was under attack 24/7... and yes 24/7.
maybe then you understand what is the difference.
noone from us has nothing against raid on gamma or so, but one raid ends, and another on scene. second raid ends and another on scene. sometimes i am wondering where the hessians are building all their battleships when 3 of them die in gamma and in next hour another 4 jump,
today i was in gamma like 6 hours and maybe 15 minutes there were no hostile ships in gamma ...
but you are right, maybe we move all legates somewhere to rheinland or bretonia on nice zoner base and start 234/7 raids there...we will have safe place to hide right to our enemies and our suplies will not care what we are making ...
Global
Its activity.
And if you really want to stop raids don't log in. Besides you give too many blue messages to our enemies :P
Corsair - Zoner - Mímir - 02-07-2012
I really liked this thread but it has gone out of hand. This whole thing has. There is the other thread with the warmongering Zoners declaring neutrality something of the past - is that supposed to be taken seriously? And who will the next targets of the mighty Zoner war machine be? What is up with Zoners acting like Corsairs? And how does the Zoners expect to return to normality after this oorp and rp q_q fest? Is collective memory loss going to hit all of Sirius when admins or some other powerful (and responsible) beings set things straight?
Really, this is super retarded - total annihilation of FP9 by Zoner hands sounds more and more like THE viable solution - or removal of all turret hardpoints on Zoner caps so neutrality and diplomacy is no longer an option, but a forced path.
The concept of Zoners-as-warriors change the perspective on all those Zoner lolcaps you see all over Sirius and more often than not let slide, even though they shouldn't be where they are at. Zoners - indies and factioned alike - are shown a tremendous amount of good-will by everyone, simply due to their ID and not their RP. If RP changes the faction into a warmongering one, this extra slack Zoners have always been given might not persist. So who is really hurting the indie Zoners who liked neutrality just fine?
Even though the war effort is only directed at Corsairs at the moment, it rubs off on the entire image of the Zoner community - if the over-proportioned Zoner capfleet goes after the 'Sairs, who is to say what they will attack next? Attempts at annexing the Omegas perhaps? Or wasn't there a rabid group of Zoner lolcaps who wanted to "take back" Pennsylvania at some point? How is a rogue terrorist faction with a neutral reputation and zero accountability really going to fit into this game?
I might not agree with the Corsair side either, but at least their burning hatred and vicious behaviour in and out of rp falls within the boundaries of what the Corsairs are supposed to be like - that is more than what can be said about the group of warmongering Zoners - at least if they imagine themselves as neutral. I have a hard time seeing Zoners in a neutral light any more.
Elect some leaders and let yourselves be governed by those who are capable.
Corsair - Zoner - globalplayer-svk - 02-07-2012
' Wrote:Pvpwhoring? If you don't want pvp, keep your sairs docked in trafalgar and go pirating, keep them docked in O49. All the corsairs fighting in gamma have the same dessire for pvp than the people going to gamma.
I agree on that. Hunters and Hessians raiding together gamma was a huge fail.
But now that some zoners got involved with those attacks, I'd not call it OORP that easyly,
and this is just my humple opinion on zoner destroyers and sabres attacking gamma ......
Zoner ID
Pilot carrying this ID is a Zoner, who :
1. Can attack lawful and unlawfull targets in self-defense, to protect an other traider, or in defense of a Zoner Base.
2. Can trade and escort traiders.
3. Cannot dock gunboats, cruisers, battleships, or transports with more than 3,600 cargo within House Spaces, except Aomori Station, the Battleship Hood and Zoner bases.
4. Cannot engage in piracy or fulfill bounty contracts.
grouping with hessians/mandalores/whoever to attack gamma is what of this point ? 1? or 2 ?or 3? or 4 ?
and with this, i am ending posting in this thread.
some from you may think about me that i am jsut stupid, but i am trying to look on rp things as in things in real lifre... and we all know wht will every man make when this situation happend...
Corsair - Zoner - DodgeOld24 - 02-07-2012
' Wrote:Seriously, no one can force anyone to fight, you can just avoid them and go somewhere else. Anyway, take my advice or leave it, but don't lie saying that you got on those fights against your will.
This kinda contradicts...
' Wrote:No one forces you to fight, specially to your hole jumping skills xD
I remember how upset you were when I did that, not giving you your blue message. Hence why the obvious sarcasm is a contradiction.
But it's okay, I didn't really expect you to supply this thread with an actual reasonable argument that wasn't completely off topic.
Home systems should be a bit safe at some degree. Gamma isn't, at the moment, there's been at least something shooting Corsairs the last few days in there at any given time, every day.
Corsair - Zoner - Mímir - 02-07-2012
Good point. Sanctionlancer FTW if that is what it takes to set things back to normal!
Corsair - Zoner - Kaghuros - 02-07-2012
' Wrote:and this is just my humple opinion on zoner destroyers and sabres attacking gamma ......
Zoner ID
Pilot carrying this ID is a Zoner, who :
1. Can attack lawful and unlawfull targets in self-defense, to protect an other traider, or in defense of a Zoner Base.
2. Can trade and escort traiders.
3. Cannot dock gunboats, cruisers, battleships, or transports with more than 3,600 cargo within House Spaces, except Aomori Station, the Battleship Hood and Zoner bases.
4. Cannot engage in piracy or fulfill bounty contracts.
grouping with hessians/mandalores/whoever to attack gamma is what of this point ? 1? or 2 ?or 3? or 4 ?
and with this, i am ending posting in this thread.
some from you may think about me that i am jsut stupid, but i am trying to look on rp things as in things in real lifre... and we all know wht will every man make when this situation happend...
It's covered under bullet two. They're protecting people who trade plasma in exchange for tears.
Corsair - Zoner - Reacher - 02-07-2012
All the back and forth trolling and complaining aside take a look at this:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...p;#entry1686976
With all the fighting that has been done by all the people on such a mass scale over the past few days their should be pages upon pages upon pages of kudos going around.
The fact that their is almost none says something rather bad about BOTH sides.
Corsair - Zoner - Rodriguez - 02-07-2012
' Wrote:and this is just my humple opinion on zoner destroyers and sabres attacking gamma ......
Zoner ID
If you think they are not following their ID, then report them, although if sairs have been shooting/pirating some zoners, is unvalid for them to attack back? Anyway, that's more like an admin thing.
' Wrote:This kinda contradicts...
I remember how upset you were when I did that, not giving you your blue message. Hence why the obvious sarcasm is a contradiction.
But it's okay, I didn't really expect you to supply this thread with an actual reasonable argument that wasn't completely off topic.
Home systems should be a bit safe at some degree. Gamma isn't, at the moment, there's been at least something shooting Corsairs the last few days in there.
And I thought you were mature enough to understand a joke, and an attempt to tone down the thread a bit. It's my fault for expecting any different response from you. I doubt my post was completely off topic.
Home systems are all the same, if factions hated outcasts more than corsairs, people would be raiding alpha... or new york... or NB... or NL...
I'm sorry, I didn't understand how you are forced to fight against your will, jokes aside.
Corsair - Zoner - Dusty Lens - 02-07-2012
' Wrote:Good point. Sanctionlancer FTW if that is what it takes to set things back to normal!
Corsairs, the new Omicroners.
Corsair - Zoner - Not Espi - 02-07-2012
1 - heard gamma is being raided on skype
2 - decided to -not- give a fudge and didn't log in
3 - ???
4 - profit
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alternatively, today it was:
1 - hear gamma is raided again
2 - decides to see what's all the forum fuss about
3 - log skiros ship
4 - see 3 non-corsair fighters being attacked by 2 legates, 3 gunboats, 2 cruisers and numerous other snubs
5 - lolwtf, i'm leaving this place
6 - meet 6 MND ID'd RM ships in 41
food for thought : 2 stayed and rest went on, props for that 51st
7 - die to my own mine
I LOVED IT.
see? no gamma pvp - still fun. try it.