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RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - Reid - 01-13-2014
(01-13-2014, 12:31 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: It has been my intention for a while to limit the Spyglass Scanner to Spyglass-platform starships (Arbiter, Resheph, and anything SRPed) and to limit Battleship Scanners to battleship-class starships only. I do not yet have the final OK to implement this, but I am continuing to push for it.
Woo, limit one type of scanner to two ships, one that isn't available to the public and the other that can't do anything useful.
RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - McNeo - 01-13-2014
(01-13-2014, 12:58 AM)Hidamari Wrote:(01-13-2014, 12:23 AM)McNeo Wrote: Liberty produces two top secret prototype battleships.
Both were stolen.
2/10 would not build again.
As for spyglass scanner on stuff, no reason to take away toys from people who can afford them. I mean, you are part of the same crowd that believes in the freedom of indies, so why take this away from everybody except those ships Omicron singled out? Doesn't make sense to me. I cant afford them myself.
As I stated up there somewhere, I have absolutely no intention on taking away anyones toys, this thread is about my own piece of mind really and thats as far as I wanted it to go. If people can afford them then im not really bothered if they have them, "knock yourselves out" as the saying goes.
I was planning to upgrade 75th ships with these big scanners to make our scout squadron really "complete", however what i didnt want to happen was to do all that trading, all those runs back and forth collecting 3.5 billion credits just for devs to limit the scanners so our scimitars cant even mount them anyway, so we are left with three dozen useless scanners.
and since Kazinsal has just revealed that hes pushing for this tech to be limited im ALREADY worried about the one Battleship scanner we spent 3-4 months saving up for one we own on our cruiser.
That's a good reason. Given how much gets changed around, its good to ask about these things. I too would be quite livid if that were to happen to me after all that time. Good call, and apologies for being presumptuous.
RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - Thargoid - 01-13-2014
I have 4 of them.
So if they nerf them I've wasted a bil.
Loads of others have them too, that's billions of credits and hundreds of hours people have put in to buy an upgrade that's now useless (assuming this gets implemented).
Does it really matter if it's ooRP? Half the things I see on this server are ooRP and ridiculous, capspam for one, traders destroying their own cargo before asking to be killed, lone BCs chasing down a smuggler in a freighter, people hauling ore in a Luxury Liner, pirates pirating in cruisers. None of this really bothers me that much, it's kinda funny, and at the end of the day, it's just a game.
Keep the money sink IMO, and while you're there make a CAU9 with 4.2 multiplier that costs 2.5 Billion. Anything that keeps people trading/mining is a good thing.
RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - ProwlerPC - 01-13-2014
The fact that I support Indies and their freedoms has no bearing in my opinion about the spyglass scanner. This would affect both factions and indies. No it's not some new money sink that was created. That thing is old, very old. My attitude towards wanting all ID, equipment and ship open to the public also has no bearing on my feeling of that scanner. Otherwise I'd be championing the idea of letting Fighters equip Mortar turrets. If we've made a leap forward in technology that the once classified spyglass array is now small enough to fit in a snub ad is no longer classified then please make it so and get it out on the markets around Sirius. Rename it and give it a proper history. Or will these same people who don't want it restricted to the one shipclass push for it to be restricted to a Zone or set of certain factions?
RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - aakopa - 01-13-2014
(01-13-2014, 12:31 AM)Kazinsal Wrote:Yes, plz(01-12-2014, 12:36 PM)Hidamari Wrote: Some admin green or dev amber would be appreciated on that topic.
It has been my intention for a while to limit the Spyglass Scanner to Spyglass-platform starships (Arbiter, Resheph, and anything SRPed) and to limit Battleship Scanners to battleship-class starships only. I do not yet have the final OK to implement this, but I am continuing to push for it.
(01-12-2014, 01:17 PM)Omicron Wrote: Conclusion, the only factions capable to utilize the scanner (and on specific ships only INRP) are The Order (Resheph), LN/LSF ("experimental cruiser"), Hellfire Legion (Spyglass/Arbiter) and Lane Hackers (who cannot field Spyglasses to my knowledge anymore).
Forgot one.
RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - Venkman - 01-13-2014
Yeah, it is OORP and i thing the best thing would be if BS and Spyglass scanner could not be mountable for fighters.
RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - Thargoid - 01-13-2014
Also while we're there, let's ban Cruisers from pirating, nerf transport guns coz they're so OP it's ridiculous, ban Battleships from hunting unlawful snubs and enforcing smuggling laws, ban Liners from hauling anything but human cargo, ban RPing and chatting before piracy coz that wouldn't happen 90% of the time (especially with Xenos), all of this is ooRP and is allowed/enforced coz ya know, it's fun.
And I mostly pirate, and hardly ever trade, so I'm actually at a disadvantage here, but the 25K scanners can't see through jumpgates
Not only that but most people who trade are new players that can't afford these scanners, and those who can, (mostly) are so rich they trade for the RP mostly and don't care about pirates.
During my time pirating with a 25K scanner, I've seen one trader jump out of the lane at 25K, this is out of hundreds of encounters around trade lanes. Most of 'em don't even bother jumping out of the lane at 10k.
RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - Thexare - 01-13-2014
Didn't you quit?
RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - Thargoid - 01-13-2014
Yeah, twice.
I give up trying to quit now...
RE: are fighters with spyglass/battleship scanners OORP? - Kazinsal - 01-13-2014
Request a ban.
Works 99.8% of the time.