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RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Sath - 01-16-2015
(01-16-2015, 04:09 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote:Quote:Lynx is surely not better than Paladin. But yeah, the people using Lynx are better, which makes you say so.
Have you flown either, Mory? Lynx is definitely better than the Paladin. The Templar holds its own a bit better in the hands of good pilots, of which we do have a deficit.
I have flown both. 8|
RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Haste - 01-16-2015
The Lynx and Templar have different advantages and disadvantages. I'm confident I'm a better Lynx pilot than a Templar pilot, but there are people who can work miracles in the Templar. BloogaL has repeatedly handed my [rear end] to me while I was flying an Odin and he was flying a shotgun Templar, while the Odin certainly is an extremely strong ship in its current state. And he's not the only one.
One very notable thing that isn't immediately clear when looking at the Templar is that it's got amazing weapon placement. All the gun mounts are centrally located meaning that the ship can get great accuracy against just about any ship shape, while something like the Lynx has more spread-out (horizontally) weapon mounts that are more accurate at close ranges against shapes like the Eagle, but less accurate against (amusingly) "compact" ships such as the Templar.
All in all, though, the Gallic and Bretonian snubs are sufficiently closely-matched that pilot skill is by far the most important factor in determining which side wins a snub fight.
RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Highland Laddie - 01-16-2015
Quote:Just a clarification....
So..the Crecy is basically being nerfed to be equal/on par with the Obstinate? Slighter better/worse than?
How will the two compare after the change?
Bump?
RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Omi - 01-16-2015
(01-16-2015, 04:09 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote:Quote:Lynx is surely not better than Paladin. But yeah, the people using Lynx are better, which makes you say so.
Have you flown either, Mory? Lynx is definitely better than the Paladin. The Templar holds its own a bit better in the hands of good pilots, of which we do have a deficit.
Actually, I disagree strongly. Lynx vs Paladin is an even matchup in the hands of skilled players - the speedy Paladin can run rings around the sluggish Lynx. I find the Templar much more difficult to use effectively than the Paladin. This is more of a personal preference thing, though. I would, however, rate the Paladin as an extremely solid HF. Certainly, it blows the Serval out of the water.
Personally, I'd say that Paladin = Lynx >= Templar.
Forgive me, but I'd say Moriarty is more qualified to discuss fighter balance than you.
RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Haste - 01-16-2015
(01-16-2015, 04:20 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote:Quote:Just a clarification....
So..the Crecy is basically being nerfed to be equal/on par with the Obstinate? Slighter better/worse than?
How will the two compare after the change?
Bump?
The balancing ideal is equality where, within a ship class, each ship has an equal chance of beating another.
That should answer your question.
RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Wesker - 01-16-2015
Back to crecey tho... How nerfed is it getting?
RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Swifty - 01-16-2015
(01-16-2015, 03:27 PM)Moriarty. Wrote: I don't even see a valid point in your argument.
"Bretonia needs the best ship because it is in extinction" uwotm8
(01-16-2015, 03:40 PM)Curios Wrote: Templar is good 8|
This. All of them.
To the topic - Why do i feel like someone is butthurt? Just because BAF doesn't win as much as GRN in pvp, doesn't mean their ships are weak as f*** like you assume. They just don't have coordination, a plan to take on GRN. They just go in without thinking of something and then they QQ because "omg Valor OP, omg Cougar OP, omg Lynx is the best" and that's something you don't do. Use the brain before jumping to conclusions and interactiong with anyone.
(01-16-2015, 03:27 PM)Moriarty. Wrote: I don't even see a valid point in your argument.
RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Swifty - 01-16-2015
I don't care if the Crecy gets nerfed or not. It has a broken hitpoint, that's true. Maybe that's what they're going to fix. No need to make such a big deal about it.
RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Wesker - 01-16-2015
(01-16-2015, 05:10 PM)Carter Wrote: I don't care if the Crecy gets nerfed or not. It has a broken hitpoint, that's true. Maybe that's what they're going to fix. No need to make such a big deal about it.
I'll admit I really like the crecey the way it is but your other point.... I'm not but third at all in recent events valors and corsairs have burned by my guns. And we've won, I'm just saying the total amount of wins is greater for GRN. When I see a valor I don't wine and say it's OP I go a fight it... Idk who your saying is but hurt... I just said I hoped the crecey doesn't get nerfed... Also no one is saying BAF ships are weak as f*** I listed out the pros of both. And as far as snubs people are saying there equal.
RE: Why must you do this to Bretonia! - Technogeist - 01-16-2015
I imagine it is going to be fixed in the same way the AI cruiser should be fixed. Hitbox, most likely.