' Wrote:Fail.
Let me tell you why...

The HAF, as a whole, almost every single member, knows NOTHING of roleplaying. Even you, the so called leader, I have seen showing appalling lack of roleplay. The one time I did see you roleplaying, you put // marks in front of your text.

You cannot just appear in Gamma, and expect everyone to accept you. Especially if all you do in your time is cause trouble. Going to Kusari and attacking Kusari lawfuls, and threatening to attack AFA and Hogosha, breaking freeport rules, attacking Phantoms, shooting at and killing people setting up to join the Corsairs, while Elders were telling at you to cease your fire. None of these are acceptable, especially not if you are all grouped together with the HAF tag.

And no, the OPG weren't the one to declare war on you and 'drag the Benitez into it'. You are either lying through your teeth to try and win some undeserved sympathy, or you are stupid. Every single Elder of the Corsair Council except Laowai, which has representatives from the OPG, TBH and Benitez voted against the HAF. Laowai as the indy representative, was the only one to vote against, as his character never condones the shooting of other Corsairs, but oorp, he admitted the HAF need to go away. The OPG is the most active Corsair faction at the moment, and being Gentle's 2nd in command, I was the one to write the declaration of war against the HAF not in the name of the OPG, but as a representative from the Corsair Council.

You say the OPG never gave you a chance. The first time we encountered the HAF was when a new OPG recruit was travelling to Crete, he was converting one of his old chars into a Corsair. With a Rheinland Military tag, a Wrath, and a trader ID, he came to Crete, with the Name '//setting.up.char'. You shot at him. Gentle told you to stop your firing, you didn't listen, and killed the recruit. Gentle was furious and ordered all HAF to be KoS. I logged on, and found a swarm of HAF lulwutting and speaking spanish all over the place, and I proceeded to kill half a dozen of them, then HAF-Cosmo pleaded for us to have patience. He promised to make sure all the HAF wouldn't speak spanish, that all the HAF would learn the rules, that the HAF would stop talking OOC and rulelawyering. I decided to give you time. That was on the 16th of January. Almost a month later, with no improvement on HAF's behalf, and the ever increasing complaints about the HAF, both in RP and OORP, the Council made a decision.

Every single member, every single faction on this server, has worked long and hard, gaining the discipline to stay in RP, taking the time to learn the nooks and crannies of the Discovery universe, and gaining the respect of each other. You cannot expect us to accept you in the state that the HAF are currently in.

If you cannot understand this, there is very little hope for you or your faction on this server.

There are no excuses you can make for your failures.
"We did not know who the Elders were"
Forming a Corsair clan, that should have been the first thing you looked up.

"We do not speak english very well"
This is an english server.

"We do not know the rules" or "We do not know how to roleplay"
You should have knowledge of both before attempting to form a clan.

"We need more time"
You were given plenty.

Get rid of the tag.
Learn how to be players on the Disco server. Learn how to roleplay. THEN try to make a faction. Not the other way around.

' Wrote:No, my question was after this message