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RE: Wyvern and Wraith - Sanctions - 07-20-2018
It's decent to bad compared to any other serious VHF, not only Wyvern.
>it's why Wesker isn't going to single-handedly get the gun given back to it regardless of how loud he whinges on the forums besides you.
Is it his or mine personal need? We're not RM players generally, especially me, but we support them.
>Calling the wraith "trash" without proof of your own doesn't
What? Want me to proof a Wraith? I'd rather listen to anyone else besides you, really.
RE: Wyvern and Wraith - SnakThree - 07-20-2018
Why are you demanding proof from others without providing it yourself?
RE: Wyvern and Wraith - DarkTails - 07-20-2018
Youre demanding proof to something thats already proven. The Wraith is a very capable fighter, and is by no means bad. I have yet to see actual proof that hasnt been debunked that makes the Wraith bad.
RE: Wyvern and Wraith - Reeves - 07-20-2018
(07-20-2018, 10:23 AM)Sanctions Wrote: What? Want me to proof a Wraith? I'd rather listen to anyone else besides you, really.
I'm being logical, you started this avenue of debate and given my profession, burden of proof falls on the plaintiff. You're claiming the wraith isn't good enough, please substantiate.
RE: Wyvern and Wraith - Mr.Mike. - 07-20-2018
Lol, it`s fun.
You probably do not see the whole picture: Wraith has more maneuverability than any ship in a game of the same class. Yes, he have 5 cannons, but that does not negate the fact of his ability to fight against any kind of ship. The main advantage of it is the high speed of the strafe.
I take in the example of Wesker: he is an experienced player, and he can fight on any snubs. I can also cite myself as an example - I'm not a very experienced player, but I know that it`s possible to destroy any ship if you have the appropriate game experience.
RE: Wyvern and Wraith - Traxit - 07-20-2018
it is not that the wraith is not good enough
it is that the wyvern is op because the hitbox is the same as the chimmie except it has bigger wings which only help to hit at it when shooting from the rear.
the spiky bits on the wyvern don't help.
RE: Wyvern and Wraith - Lucas - 07-20-2018
Compared to Tachi, which is also a 5 gun VHF, Wraith seems pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
RE: Wyvern and Wraith - Reeves - 07-20-2018
(07-20-2018, 11:10 AM)Lucas Wrote: Compared to Tachi, which is also a 5 gun VHF, Wraith seems pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
Aren't you the same guy that calls snub PvP devoid of skill because you yourself are incapable of actually understanding it? If so, why are you commenting?
RE: Wyvern and Wraith - Lucas - 07-20-2018
(07-20-2018, 11:53 AM)Reeves Wrote:(07-20-2018, 11:10 AM)Lucas Wrote: Compared to Tachi, which is also a 5 gun VHF, Wraith seems pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
Aren't you the same guy that calls snub PvP devoid of skill because you yourself are incapable of actually understanding it? If so, why are you commenting?
Because even a noob like myself can do decent with a Tachi, while I absolutely suck on a Wraith. It's called ingame- performance and testing. And I never claimed it to be devoid of skill, I am claiming the complete opposite.
RE: Wyvern and Wraith - Wesker - 07-20-2018
(07-20-2018, 10:10 AM)Reeves Wrote: It was grossly over-powered when it had six guns, it's why Wesker isn't going to single-handedly get the gun given back to it regardless of how loud he whinges on the forums besides you.
Ok, fine. Ok, you're gonna be a dick and assume I'm whinging for this ship's betterment. Please stop putting words in my mouth, I told you at the beginning I was laying out what I saw as factual based on the stats and my experience. I didn't continue arguing with you for that very reason, I could care less if either of these ships get tweaked. Easier wins for me when I fly an Odin.
Quote: Calling the wraith "trash" without proof of your own doesn't exactly make your arguments seem worth listening to.
And no sir, passive-aggressively telling people that the wraith is somehow bad in comparison with the Wyvern doesn't count as proof.
You're right, I'd collect hard evidence for you with live recordings from full blown duels and group fights but then you'd all pull the "well that player is terrible/worse" card.
It's hard to collect valid evidence to prove a point when you're capable of taking a dump on everyone you fight against.