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The Black Sails - globalplayer-svk - 11-30-2009
i see no problem here, good thing is chosing etna as home base.
it can give new life to outcasts/corsair war:)
The Black Sails - ... kur nubėgo? - 11-30-2009
Anyhow more tips about Kusari.
I think I can say that we are looking forward to forge closer relations with Hogosha. Since we base around Kusari borders. And for my personal perspective only hogosha have enought reasons to be in alliance with Corsairs. Now arguments why:
* Artefacts are very important source of income to hogosha. As well as human organs in which corsaris started to trade after looting hundreds of outcasts pilots in eta, might have smuggling - buissnes perspectives.
* In sigmas there are mainly GMG and Kishiro (since the kishiro jumpgate program). We all know that these factions aren't very friendly to Hogosha.
* Hogosha are dependent on Corsair military power. (weapons, common enemies like blood dragons, outcasts)
arguments agianst:
* Hogosha is ultra-nationalist umbrella group. Anyhow this have been sloved since Corsairs do not openly operate in Kusari space anyway.
All in all I hope that our activity will increase such faction acitvity as GMG and Hogosha. Perhaps even blood dragons becouse of sigma 13.
Etna base.. im hoping that this might help to draw the main fighing lines to Omicron eta where it should be instead of gamma- alpha raids.
kusari relations.. Corsairs are not allied with Kusari. neither friendly. And even hard to say neutral. I doubt KNF would like to see corsairs in their space without a strong reason. They are just having common enemies and having hostile relationship wouldn't be profitable for both sides. Oh and agian - hogosha influence protects Kusari from Corsairs as well.
The Black Sails - Miss - 11-30-2009
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Certainly the Sails you are corsairs? Seeing your structure, it would say it to nobody. And I ask, since when the corsairs use slaves? You would have to use ID Pirate, simply, that would be more in agreement with which you speack to be.
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The Black Sails - ... kur nubėgo? - 11-30-2009
1. This is not rp section, I appriciate your efforts, but we want feedback from players as players not as charcters in this thread.
2. As you can read the story agian. Slave is more like a metaphor. Meaning that new recruits do not have any rights in the group. They need to earn their respect, until then they play important role in bar fights as shields protecting regular memebers from incoming bottles with their bodies : D.. we are going to pick up the task what OPG was doing with rats.
3. And for about pirate id please read this first before you post: http://www.discoveryfl.com/wiki/index.php?...io_del_Corsario
Corsairs are heavily involved in piracy and smuggling. It was quite some time then corsair factions the triumvirate of OPG, Benitez and TBH used to be specialized factions.
Benitez - Diplomats
TBH - Military power and organisation
OPG - Piracy.
Well of course all these factions were fullfining their all corsair duties but focusing on these the most.
Black Sails are remnants of OPG. So we are picking their task. That means mainly piracy. (a bit of smuggling too perhaps). But we are not going to forgot other corsair duties, like keeping the front line with Outcasts. Skirmished with hessians in omega 41. Sometimes smuggling. Besides we are all bound with amoral style of Corsair roleplay. So as you see. Pirate ID do not fits the task.
The Black Sails - Grimly - 11-30-2009
' Wrote:-------- TRANSMISION ON --------Indeed, we are corsairs, the kind the HAF will surely never be. Corsairs exists out of Gamma. You will find that we have influence in no less than 18 different systems and we can extend our activities on 7 other systems.
Certainly the Sails you are corsairs? Seeing your structure, it would say it to nobody. And I ask, since when the corsairs use slaves? You would have to use ID Pirate, simply, that would be more in agreement with which you speack to be.
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The corsair nation is a big one, far to be limited to Omicron Gamma. Maybe you may try to understand that before saying we aren't going as corsairs.
The Black Sails - HAF-Angel - 11-30-2009
' Wrote:Indeed, we are corsairs, the kind the HAF will surely never be. Corsairs exists out of Gamma. You will find that we have influence in no less than 18 different systems and we can extend our activities on 7 other systems.
The corsair nation is a big one, far to be limited to Omicron Gamma. Maybe you may try to understand that before saying we aren't going as corsairs.
You say nothing new for us and I think for the rest of players, and sure we had miles away points of view.
Maybe you didn't get the point, you are in fact according to your official faction request, a pirate faction, maybe could it be inside the Corsair nation since Corsairs need to loot in order to gain resources not avaible in Crete for example, but I can't really see a difference between Sails inside the corsairs or being a pirate IDd faction except for the use of Corsair bases and equipment and of course the same corsair diplomacy.
Provably the only thing we cannot support is the slave thing... can't imagine a descent form Hispania being some kind of slave, the history from romans to the present demonstrates that those kind of people can't be conquered, thats the spirit of the corsairs taked into a count by the original game too.
About the ranks*, the ship restriction and the internal organisation, matches pretty well, I like specially the name of the ranks*.
*(except commented before)
The Black Sails - ... kur nubėgo? - 11-30-2009
' Wrote:You say nothing new for us and I think for the rest of players, and sure we had miles away points of view.
Maybe you didn't get the point, you are in fact according to your official faction request, a pirate faction, maybe could it be inside the Corsair nation since Corsairs need to loot in order to gain resources not avaible in Crete for example, but I can't really see a difference between Sails inside the corsairs or being a pirate IDd faction except for the use of Corsair bases and equipment and of course the same corsair diplomacy.
About the ranks, the ship restriction and the internal organisation, matches pretty well, I like specially the name of the ranks.
Becouse pirate id is only for pirates. And we are not only pirates. We are corsair pirates. I think you might want to read the link which I gave to Miss sime time ago to read who are corsairs in the first place.
No you might ask why we are not flying around gamma. Would be few reasons:
* It's full of lolwutters in caps. Mostly cap spamage.
* Flying around gamma wont get you into a lot of rp situations. So what is the point to play then?
The Black Sails - HAF-Angel - 12-01-2009
' Wrote:Becouse pirate id is only for pirates. And we are not only pirates. We are corsair pirates. I think you might want to read the link which I gave to Miss sime time ago to read who are corsairs in the first place.
No you might ask why we are not flying around gamma. Would be few reasons:
* It's full of lolwutters in caps. Mostly cap spamage.
* Flying around gamma wont get you into a lot of rp situations. So what is the point to play then?
I don't need anybody to tell me who are corsairs cause I know his history from the very beggining before the roman empire to the actuall Sirius time, but to show a realistic role-play you must remember from where you come if you will be a corsair, for example, if a Sail, or any corsair decided to commit suicide because he failed Grimly or his leader, I will be truly dissapointed, Why? because we expect that from Kusary people (obbious cultural references...) but never ever expect that from Hispania. So, I only want from you to move inside an easy previsible "lost children of Hispania" way of act (hope you will finally understand this RP feedback).
*About your Gamma considerations I fully agree with that indeed. I'm sure we will find soon a solution for better RP and playability (mostly because we must do something about).
The Black Sails - ... kur nubėgo? - 12-01-2009
' Wrote:I don't need anybody to tell me who are corsairs cause I know his history from the very beggining before the roman empire to the actuall Sirius time, but to show a realistic role-play you must remember from where you come if you will be a corsair, for example, if a Sail, or any corsair decided to commit suicide because he failed Grimly or his leader, I will be truly dissapointed, Why? because we expect that from Kusary people (obbious cultural references...) but never ever expect that from Hispania. So, I only want from you to move inside an easy previsible "lost children of Hispania" way of act (hope you will finally understand this RP feedback).
*About your Gamma considerations I fully agree with that indeed. I'm sure we will find soon a solution for better RP and playability (mostly because we must do something about).
Hmm.. you are trying to teach us how to rp? or what. Oh please don't do it. We were already aware of Corsair pirate rp then your friends were shooting on food transports at gamma.
Oh I doubt you red the Sails code of conduct. No really you do not need to teach me how to roleplay a corsair. Sorry, but our group is more than just bunch of caps patroling around gamma time to time fighting off OC fleets and loosing to them lots of caps. We are not going play in that syle.
Instead we are going to bring corsair attidute to corsair borders there the most rp action exist. And how the corsairs should act instead of flying around core system.
Now about defence of gamma. oh we participate there to. Sometimes the fights are just awsome up thare (rarely of course due to the cap spam) but Kudos to 101st and SOB who help to balance the things. Here is one of the best fights in gamma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWlHqMoyIkQ
The Black Sails - Grimly - 12-01-2009
Quote:Provably the only thing we cannot support is the slave thing... can't imagine a descent form Hispania being some kind of slave, the history from romans to the present demonstrates that those kind of people can't be conquered, thats the spirit of the corsairs taked into a count by the original game too.
Angel, thanks for your input but there is a reason to this rank name.
The "Slaves" are somehow discriminating, aggressive, ... well everything that makes you do not want to be called a slave. That's exactly the goal.
We are looking for Sailors and not Slaves in our group, like the OPG were looking for Marauders and not Rats.
Take the Slaves as a trial rank we use to make sure the player we recruit is good at piracy, fighting and is able to follow the rules of the server.
This promotion to Sailor is given by me or any of the two Buccaneers. I've chosen them because they were the most competent in it, in tests as well as training.
This rank name may hurt you, then I'm sorry. I will let you know also the ranks aren't displayed in game. So the others won't see if you are a Slave or not. Anyway, the ranks are mainly internal affairs, we just leave our structure as it is.
btw, I'm not racist at all, unless you makes **** to the others, we will keep a certain level of respect even to "Slaves".