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Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - Athenian - 12-02-2009

' Wrote:I actually wasnt going to bring it up or respond to it (cause it was in a private comm) and I told my guys not to, but when I was talking to Dab, we got on it, and he said it would be a good time to bump his old thread, he showed me a post that was not directly saying anything about the incident, and I told him I was not opposed to him posting it. I wasnt going to bring it up, thats just not the way we like to deal with things, but when everyone started accusing Dab of trying to address whatever situation he was with the Joker by posting it, I felt it wasn't right to leave him swinging in the wind, taking blame for something that was clearly not what was going on. Thats why I posted it. On a side note, I tried to PM you yesterday to see if we needed to set up any oorp ground rules, but your box is closed.

A note on the other side, I dont think Unconstructive is a word:P

I don't know if it was actually intended to be the governor of Honshu, however I suppose some kind of guidelines as to what is acceptable should be worked out. I think most people enjoy and get into the spirit of spontaneity, so any problems like this can be ironed out easily enough so we can save the ongoing interaction.

from Webster's Dictionary:
unconstructive
A adjective
1 unconstructive
not constructive

Quote:Yes, phantoms are cheap-ass admin ****s doing everything they outlaw for others.

Take that to faction feedback. Cleaned up a little perhaps.

Personally I never minded someone saying "I'll blow up your base". Because it can't be done. Well, not on an impromptu basis. It requires a lot of careful planning within the development of the mod and can be done, just not by random people on a whim. People should bear that in mind when they threaten this stuff - you will generally fail. Only threaten stuff you can carry out.



Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - Agmen of Eladesor - 12-02-2009

Since it sounds like someone went off into left field on what was intended as a simple post of mine - without bothering to actually ask me or PM me about it...

There was a nice dust-up near Deshima last night. I wasn't able to get there in time with any of my ships. So I went the long way around and staged a raid on Honshu. My 'powergaming' was simply a case of using what a character in RP might have said upon being captured - that he was the governor of Honshu. Who knows whether the guy actually is or not? That's what I was reporting ... in what was supposed to be a secret and classified channel, by the way ... to my Guildmaster in an attempt to gain him aids in HIS negotiations in the PUBLIC channel.

Oh, that's right - what's the header of that post again?

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=53667

A Communication Within The Bounty Hunters' Guild, Top Secret - Guild Members Only

Metagaming? I suggest a mirror might better be looked at before complaining abut my behavior, especially if you're posting something like this publicly. (I do understand the issues because everyone thought it was about the Joker.)


Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - Zelot - 12-03-2009

' Wrote:I don't know if it was actually intended to be the governor of Honshu, however I suppose some kind of guidelines as to what is acceptable should be worked out. I think most people enjoy and get into the spirit of spontaneity, so any problems like this can be ironed out easily enough so we can save the ongoing interaction.

from Webster's Dictionary:
unconstructive
A adjective
1 unconstructive
not constructive



Take that to faction feedback. Cleaned up a little perhaps.

Personally I never minded someone saying "I'll blow up your base". Because it can't be done. Well, not on an impromptu basis. It requires a lot of careful planning within the development of the mod and can be done, just not by random people on a whim. People should bear that in mind when they threaten this stuff - you will generally fail. Only threaten stuff you can carry out.



I actually have really enjoyed the rp of this between the BHG and Kusari, its been a spontaneous rp that seems to have brought some life back to a couple of factions that could certainly use it at the moment, and it has been some really top notch rp, both on the forum and in game. But to the governor of Honshu, I think people like political leaders who are not being rped should be left out of this type of spontaneous rp.



Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - Zelot - 12-03-2009

' Wrote:Since it sounds like someone went off into left field on what was intended as a simple post of mine - without bothering to actually ask me or PM me about it...

There was a nice dust-up near Deshima last night. I wasn't able to get there in time with any of my ships. So I went the long way around and staged a raid on Honshu. My 'powergaming' was simply a case of using what a character in RP might have said upon being captured - that he was the governor of Honshu. Who knows whether the guy actually is or not? That's what I was reporting ... in what was supposed to be a secret and classified channel, by the way ... to my Guildmaster in an attempt to gain him aids in HIS negotiations in the PUBLIC channel.

Oh, that's right - what's the header of that post again?

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=53667

A Communication Within The Bounty Hunters' Guild, Top Secret - Guild Members Only

Metagaming? I suggest a mirror might better be looked at before complaining abut my behavior, especially if you're posting something like this publicly. (I do understand the issues because everyone thought it was about the Joker.)



' Wrote:I actually wasnt going to bring it up or respond to it (cause it was in a private comm) and I told my guys not to,



How bout we not get all flamey for no good reason. I didnt respond to anything about it INRP, so the whole bit of talking about me metagaming you about it is moot. But, I hope you dont mind when the Kusari somehow take 3 or 4 guild masters captive, you seem to have alot of them.




Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - McNeo - 12-03-2009

' Wrote:I actually wasnt going to bring it up or respond to it (cause it was in a private comm) and I told my guys not to, but when I was talking to Dab, we got on it, and he said it would be a good time to bump his old thread, he showed me a post that was not directly saying anything about the incident, and I told him I was not opposed to him posting it. I wasnt going to bring it up, thats just not the way we like to deal with things, but when everyone started accusing Dab of trying to address whatever situation he was with the Joker by posting it, I felt it wasn't right to leave him swinging in the wind, taking blame for something that was clearly not what was going on. Thats why I posted it.


' Wrote:Oh, that's right - what's the header of that post again?

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=53667

A Communication Within The Bounty Hunters' Guild, Top Secret - Guild Members Only

Metagaming? I suggest a mirror might better be looked at before complaining abut my behavior, especially if you're posting something like this publicly. (I do understand the issues because everyone thought it was about the Joker.)

Yes yes, and we can both stop bickering about who taking who captive.



Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - Agmen of Eladesor - 12-03-2009

' Wrote:How bout we not get all flamey for no good reason. I didnt respond to anything about it INRP, so the whole bit of talking about me metagaming you about it is moot. But, I hope you dont mind when the Kusari somehow take 3 or 4 guild masters captive, you seem to have alot of them.

Actually, I think you could probably kill George Graves. Of course, nothing would happen, since we've RP'd his death how many times? (Seriously - the man has died on the forums two or three times - he keeps coming back like a zombie...)

And I'm simply returning the salvo. This comment:

Quote:the post above this writing, a shining example of power gaming from one of our Moderators.

sure seems to be nice and flamey. And if it wasn't intended to be - well, it sure came across to me personally that way.




Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - Thurgret - 12-03-2009

Eh. If folks are enjoying it apart from that, fudge the Honshu governor bit over or something. Graves caught some minor official from his entourage, perhaps? Or someone impersonating him for Kusari television? *shrug*


Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - Zelot - 12-03-2009

' Wrote:And I'm simply returning the salvo. This comment:

sure seems to be nice and flamey. And if it wasn't intended to be - well, it sure came across to me personally that way.



It was what I see as an accurate portrayal of the post I was quoting. But if thats what you want to argue with me about, do that, not accuse me of metagaming when that is clearly not the case.




Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - ProwlerPC - 12-03-2009

' Wrote:I actually have really enjoyed the rp of this between the BHG and Kusari, its been a spontaneous rp that seems to have brought some life back to a couple of factions that could certainly use it at the moment, and it has been some really top notch rp, both on the forum and in game. But to the governor of Honshu, I think people like political leaders who are not being rped should be left out of this type of spontaneous rp.

He's right, I haven't seen that many revived, out-of-use chars in one system in a looong time. I also enjoyed the possibilities and direction it could potentialy go. Logically it was a matter of time before diplomacy between Kusari and BHG would swing one way or the other. It's current tentative state had to see a catalyst. Such a catalyst may have begun and the direction has been one leaning towards hostility. This is fine in my opinion. The Kusari RP doesn't really leave room for Kusari and BHG to interact in a cooperative manner but in this direction at least we can interact in another manner. And hey! It got both player bases out there and RP'ng a big storm. If I may add; the bases going insane on opening fire on all the passing NPCs made an epic atmosphere to a tension filled standoff :).


Powergaming/Metagaming/Powerplaying - Zelot - 12-03-2009

' Wrote:He's right, I haven't seen that many revived, out-of-use chars in one system in a looong time. I also enjoyed the possibilities and direction it could potentialy go. Logically it was a matter of time before diplomacy between Kusari and BHG would swing one way or the other. It's current tentative state had to see a catalyst. Such a catalyst may have begun and the direction has been one leaning towards hostility. This is fine in my opinion. The Kusari RP doesn't really leave room for Kusari and BHG to interact in a cooperative manner but in this direction at least we can interact in another manner. And hey! It got both player bases out there and RP'ng a big storm. If I may add; the bases going insane on opening fire on all the passing NPCs made an epic atmosphere to a tension filled standoff:).



Hear Hear! Lots of fun.