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HF MK IIs? - Nightfall - 06-30-2007
Verg is right.
Make a 'HFMKII' and we need the 'VHFMKII' to counter the balance. 'LFMKII' are a mistake anyway.
HF MK IIs? - Denelo - 06-30-2007
Alright... then not nessicarily a HF MK II, but maybe upgrade them. As it is, HFs are useless. If you want proof, contact me in-game.
HF MK IIs? - Qunitinius~Verginix - 07-01-2007
Heavy fighters are useless yes, but the ships that you are supposed to use as your 'Top Tier' ships are the VHF and the LFMKII. Remember, once a heavy fighter gets class 10 guns, it becomes a VERY heavy fighter. VHF are just the very best heavy fighters.
Verginix Out
HF MK IIs? - Panzer - 07-01-2007
Nevertheless, it feels not right that there are ships in the mod, that nobody will even care to try, knowing they are outclassed by basic equipment from the start.
If VHFs and LF mk II made the older LFs and HFs obsolete, then why do people bother to still produce them?
I voted for an upgrade. Just to see the stilettos, falcons and centurions in use.
They don't have to (even shouldn't) weild level 10 weapons, 7-8-9 are enough. Like in the cylon raider.
HF MK IIs? - Denelo - 07-01-2007
noo... no level 10s. Similar to the Crow is perfect imo.
HF MK IIs? - TankTarget - 07-01-2007
Whereas it would be nice to see these fighters and I would like them to be included in the next release. They are not needed, however I must contest a statement made by Nightfall. The LFMKII is not a mistake at all. It is a needed addition and it is perfectly balanced. Remember LFMKIs are from Vanilla.
HF MK IIs? - Denelo - 07-03-2007
We need more voters! It's all even now... Also... please, POST WHEN YOU VOTE!
If there where upgrades or HF MK IIs, imo, they should be similar to the Crow. But currently... well, get a Vanilla Heavy Fighter with a good loadout and try to PvP anything else with at least a somewhat reasonable loadout. I can already tell you who'll win, and it won't be the Heavy Fighter.
HF MK IIs? - Guest - 07-03-2007
I voted for yes. I played on a Vanilla server and the Void, and the VHF MK 2 and the LF MK 2 are a great addition to freelancer. And of course, if you put lvl 10 weaps on a HF, it becomes a VHF. This thing works on lots of other servers, why not on Discovery?:D
HF MK IIs? - Qunitinius~Verginix - 07-03-2007
The only chnace I could see this working are:
LF's got class 7 and 8 guns
HF got class 8 and 9 guns
VHF remained the same.
But then, it would make the LF's kinda Obsolete. I think they are faily good they way they are right now.
Verginix Out
HF MK IIs? - Denelo - 07-03-2007
HFs would basically be LFs, except:
Better armor
More weapons
Much worse agility
If LFs would become obsolete, they would be already, as there are Heavy Fighters that're exactly right (in my opinion) out there right now. Or have you not been listening to me saying: "The crow is just right imo". Heavy Fighters would NOT be as good as other ships at anything, but they'd be better at doing everything. You see?
And just because there's a different class of ship doesn't mean it had to have a different weapon class then the others.