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[C]ouncil Feedback - Joneh - 08-16-2012
Q_Q
[C]ouncil Feedback - Anaximander - 08-16-2012
Don't make feedback threads if you can't handle the feedback...
[C]ouncil Feedback - Dubstep - 08-16-2012
Don't post in feedback threads if you can't handle it when people ignore your feedback/crying.
Goes both ways really.
[C]ouncil Feedback - Thyrzul - 08-16-2012
I have to say that with their intentions to spread Cardamine throughout Gallia (along with several other not too diplomatic actions), the Outcasts elevated The Council's hostility towards themselves to about the same level as we are hostile to the Gallic Royalty. Attacking an Outcast installation in order to cripple the spreading of that well hated drug makes at least as much sense as attacking a Gallic Royal installation in order to cripple the Gallic war machine.
In short: Our move tonight was no less inRP as if we would battle the GRN. We just chosen this way.
[C]ouncil Feedback - Anaximander - 08-16-2012
It's not for me to dictate your RP in any way or shape, but I do think the Council (as an entity in the game) is somewhat misguided if it sets the OC as high on the target list as GRN/GRP (your sole reason to exist, the "philosophical antithesis" to your group). Perhaps that's just me. Also NOX.
[C]ouncil Feedback - Daedric - 08-16-2012
The Council is fighting for the people of Gallia. The main threat to the people of Gallia in the eyes of the Council are the Royals and those loyal to them. The Outcasts present a real threat due to the fact they want to enslave Gallia to Cardamine. Thus, the Outcasts are valid and viable targets for Council.
In my eyes at least. I really don't see an issue with them raiding Alpha. Seeing as Alpha sits on one of the paths into Gallia itself. Every think that destroying the Outcasts would be a double win? Kill the Orange Dream and secure an entry back into Gallia.
[C]ouncil Feedback - Vrabcek - 08-16-2012
' Wrote:I have to say that with their intentions to spread Cardamine throughout Gallia (along with several other not too diplomatic actions), the Outcasts elevated The Council's hostility towards themselves to about the same level as we are hostile to the Gallic Royalty. Attacking an Outcast installation in order to cripple the spreading of that well hated drug makes at least as much sense as attacking a Gallic Royal installation in order to cripple the Gallic war machine.
In short: Our move tonight was no less inRP as if we would battle the GRN. We just chosen this way.
So years of fighting the GRNs is actually meeting the same level as experiencing the outcast for some months.
I dont want to sound mean, but by this logic every sirius house can excuse an Alpha raid with this argument.
Is the council so superior that it can fight the huge GRN army and a big sirius nation at once?...
There are always reasons to shoot someone and that is okay, but there is not always a reason to bring the fleet to other nation home system.
[C]ouncil Feedback - Thyrzul - 08-16-2012
@Anaximander
Indeed the Gallic Royalty was the one and only enemy of The Council and the hostility with the Maltese only came after the opening to Sirius. But then The Council have no intention to trade one kind of slavery (absolute monarchy) for an other (drug-fed-society). We regard Cardamine as a dangerous drug, and we cannot let it spread.
And Nox, well that is just Nox... nothing special...
Edit:
@Vrabcek:
Council alone may not be superior enough to fight a house military and a military of a nation I myself doesn't really count as a real/whole house. But Council is not alone, we have allies fighting alongside us in both conflicts.
And Omicron Alpha seems to be the closest system in our reach from the Taus.
[C]ouncil Feedback - HuggieSunrise - 08-16-2012
' Wrote:
And Omicron Alpha seems to be the closest system in our reach from the Taus.
Yet another staple in my theory is the closest thing you can shoot will be shot.
Council system > t29 > t23 > Orkney >gallia > more gallia
Council system > t29 > t23 > t37 > alpha > gallia?
Seems to be equidistant. in 85 we had corsairs actually attacking alpha.. someone decided to move eta into some... Ass end of the universe spot.
Lets hope the map gets fixed and we can all enjoy a LARGER DIVERSITY of boredom killing targets.
[C]ouncil Feedback - Pancakes - 08-16-2012
The thing that is most absord in this whole negative feedback about Council raiding Alpha, is that OCs had no problem with it when it was 4.85 and they had the biggest gank fleet in Discovery, hypocrisy? Probably.
At any rate, the Council have 2 Enemies - The Royal Forces and Outcasts, there are lots of other factions fight A LOT more enemies and don't crumble down under the feet of furious fighting.
Also, Vrabeck, I don't see RM raiding Gamma since it's not relevant for them. Going all the way there will be costy in resources, money, lives and time. While on the other hand the path Lorrain-Omicron 80-Omicron Alpha is the only path Council can take out of Gallia now that the control over the Languedoc-Orkney hole.
Council and Oucasts are hostile to each other, that's a fact. Council can't use the Languedoc path or conquer it back since it's jumps away from the main forces, fact number two. Outcasts posses a threat to the Gallic nation - fact number 3, Outcasts sit on the only exit from Gallia that Council have fact number 4. Mash them all up together and you'll get that raids on Alpha make sense, quite much of it actually.
Also, on the same level I can ask how Outcasts can go send armada to help Rogues against HF (as in Capital ship support, not only snubs) while also keep the bloodied war with the corsairs, and having the Royals knocking on their doorstep. I do wonder.
Anyway, for all of you who are crying about that raid - get out, seriously, there is no more to discuss in this feedback thread. This is no feedback this is merely crying.