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Hispania House - Tune - 08-13-2011
If Corsairs dont want to change their ways, at least i hope it would be possible to create a new Hispania faction, that can be lawful (friendly with major houses, not criminal).
I'm open to sugestions/helps on that.
Hispania House - DarthBindo - 08-13-2011
:facedesk:
Tune, a corsair faction friendly with the houses is impossible.
Not in-rp, but oorp.
The devs and igiss simply won't allow it.
It would break the balance of power in the omegas.
Hispania House - Tune - 08-13-2011
Doesnt have to be Corsair faction. I just would like to see a Hispania faction, that can be lawful (friendly with major houses).
Could be some family that survived the Hispania sleeper ship, but didnt joined both the Corsairs or Outcasts.
It could be interesting from RP point of view.
Hispania House - Not Espi - 08-13-2011
In that case, get creative.
Hispania House - Tailsdoll - 08-19-2011
Sorry to have to repeat what was said, but sadly, all arguments were said.
Tune, Reasons why a "lawful" Hispania faction can't happen:
1) OOrp, have to agree with DarthBindo. The Omegas are already a bloody war-zone, torn by half a dozen factions. Having Corsairs join up with the lawful forces would break the perilous "balance" in the area.
2) Inrp, no self-respecting Corsair/Outcast would leave Crete/Malta to work with lawfuls. Face it.
3) Inrp, Corsairs/Outcasts don't consider themselves "unlawful". That's a label we put on them, because someone has to be the bad guy. They are doing, basically, what is necessary to survive, since the other Houses were more than happy to forget they existed.
4) Corsairs/Outcasts are perfectly content with living how they live. Defections rarely, if ever, happen, and even if they do, it's never to House-Sanctioned (basically, that's what lawful means) forces.
5) Even if you still think you can overcome all this, the time necessary for this would be unfeasable in real-life terms. Centuries of hatred don't go away. Expect an enormous amount of resistance from the community, both inRP, and ooRP
If you still want to go through with it, be my guest. Just don't expect much support.
Hispania House - Govedo13 - 08-19-2011
' Wrote:Doesnt have to be Corsair faction. I just would like to see a Hispania faction, that can be lawful (friendly with major houses).It smells like zoner actually or what zoner should be according to me.
Could be some family that survived the Hispania sleeper ship, but didnt joined both the Corsairs or Outcasts.
It could be interesting from RP point of view.
Hispania House - DarthBindo - 08-20-2011
' Wrote:Could be some family that survived the Hispania sleeper ship, but didnt joined both the Corsairs or Outcasts.That would be impossible, given the conditions of space at landing.
However, a family that left the Corsairs/Outcasts some time ago, say two three four hundred years ago, would certainly work just as well.
Hispania House - maximus995 - 08-20-2011
' Wrote:It is not who they are, but how they must live. Both of those factions happened to be the last ones into Sirius sectors thus having to take outskirts. Those outskirts were poor in natural resources, thus to survive, they had to go robbing. Later, OC got ahold of Cardamine, Corsairs - of Artifacts. Thos commodities gave extra income, but not enough to stop robbing. So. Ye.
<I agree with snak3 for once, although he hasnt gotten all of his facts straight as malta had Natural resources and stuff, the OC are bound there because cardamine was already in the air, water, so on. by the time they realized they were being "infected" by Cardamine it was already to late.
Why the hispanics are criminals or atleast seen as criminals:
1: in the early ages, sairs had to rob and steal to supply food for their people, this was the only way they could sustain crete as they did not have money to buy food and had to steal it from other houses. by the time they had money (trough the trade of artifcats and such) they already had the reputation of criminals and nobody wanted to deal with them anymore (if someone robs you for millions, billions of cash, and later he comes to you saying, helo lad wanna be friends? would you say yes?)
2: Outcasts have always strifed (wasnt always clear under jamesons reign but that was the intention) to be "accepted" by other houses, why werent they: they use slaves, it goes against the ethnics of every house. also most houses seem to be thinking that OC only want to gain power trough the spreadnig of cardamine, aye we do wanna spread it but we dont force anyone to take it, the buyers decide for themself. Bretonia has accepted this fact and look at them now, No more OC problems, trade has been established, no hostilities, aid against common enemies and so on.....