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Battleship discussion topic - marauder - 03-01-2006
Dab,Mar 1 2006, 12:26 PM Wrote:The torp immunity makes the sunslayer obselete.
Also the Sidewinder is a bit too good like the nova. It does 8000 hull damage and can turn faster than a level 9 LF or even a firestalker missile. I've been in a fight were the guy couldn't even see me and yet was firing torp after trop into me. The sidewinder needs to be somewhere in-between a cannonball and a firestalker in terms of turn rate. It is a torpedo, it should turn like one. And unless you are a LF there is almost no ways of dodging it. Either reduce the turn rate or have a VERY large gap in between shots. Like have a 0.25 refire rate.
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What torpedo immunity?
The only Bs I've found with a torpedo immunity is the Nomad BS, which is also immune to missiles.
The sidewinder does 3,600+ hull damage not 8,000. For comparison the starkiller does 2,424 and the sunslayer does 4,800+ (i think, haven't looked at it for a while).
It's description says that the sidewinder is a blend of missile and torpedo technology, that's why it turns so well. Plus with it's current refire you can empty all your ammo fairly quickly just by holding down the torpedo key. If your opponent is relying on torpedos just dodge them and wait till he's run out of them.
Please don't remove the sidewinder torpedo, it's the prefect anti-fighter weapon for use in PvP, the starkiller and sunslayer are too slow to use with out some really good timing.
If the nova's damage is reduced and/or the torpedo ammo itself made more expensive more people will use the sidewinder, it's short range means it's very well suited to PvP.
anyhow that's just my opinion.
Battleship discussion topic - Dab - 03-01-2006
marauder,Mar 1 2006, 12:07 PM Wrote:What torpedo immunity?
The only Bs I've found with a torpedo immunity is the Nomad BS, which is also immune to missiles.
The sidewinder does 3,600+ hull damage not 8,000. For comparison the starkiller does 2,424 and the sunslayer does 4,800+ (i think, haven't looked at it for a while).
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Sidewinder: 8,000. Sunslayer: 12,3##. Hull damages.
You have been checking using a Nova. No BSs are immune to Nova due to the radius of the blast. If you try with a sunslayer it doesn't do a thing to the Nomad and Kusari BS and will only work in certain spots on the RH BS.
And no torp should have the damage capabilities of a torp and a better turn rate than the fastest missile. I agree with Igiss the torp was a mistake to put in.
Also if you plan to use a torpedo in battle it should take good timing to accomplish it. Thats why there are torps and missiles. If it was meant to be easy to use a torp in a dogfight they wouldn't have made missiles. Sidewinder is very simply a noob weapon. It is best used by a noob or at least someone bad at dogfighting. I fought Lance (please don't tell them the name of the char I was using btw Lance) with a VHF vs. VHF battle. He rarely even used guns. All he had to do was continually hit the trop button if he even got me in the corner of his sight. In a even battle (have the same ship class) where one has a sidewinder and the other doesn't you cannot win against the guy with the sidewinder unless you are in a LF.
Battleship discussion topic - Igiss - 03-01-2006
Quote:Please don't remove the sidewinder torpedo, it's the prefect anti-fighter weapon for use in PvP, the starkiller and sunslayer are too slow to use with out some really good timing.Use normal missiles for PvP. Using torpedo in a dogfight is absurd, that's the reason to remove it.
Battleship discussion topic - Wolfpack98 - 03-01-2006
Igiss,Mar 1 2006, 12:35 PM Wrote:Use normal missiles for PvP. Using torpedo in a dogfight is absurd, that's the reason to remove it.
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I agree with this.
Torpedoes are anti-cap ship weapons... Why are they being used in a dogfight?
I remember several arguements some time ago about a certain player couldn't kill another without usinv a nova...
Hell, I killed sam cause i stayed on her tail and kept blowing her minds up as she released them (Remember that, sam ??? :)
A true fighter pilot can dogfight using guns and missles only. Try THAT.
Battleship discussion topic - Dab - 03-01-2006
Yeah people were complaining about me using Novas is a fight but at least that takes some skill. Unlike the sidewinder which takes no skill at all. Everyguy I beat with a Nova said torps should not be allowed in dogfights then they turn and use a sidewinder against a fighter. Whats the difference?
Battleship discussion topic - Angel - 03-01-2006
Yeah, fun times, try using swarms there great havn't lost yet with them :crazy:
Only time i have died is battleing Korrd with his bomber and he fired Duel novas, actually killed us both i think..
Battleship discussion topic - Dab - 03-01-2006
I remember my suicide runs against you angel. I kill you about 7-8 times. So ha your wrong.
Battleship discussion topic - Angel - 03-01-2006
And i have to use a calculator to keep track the amount of times ive killed you..... :P
Battleship discussion topic - The Damned - 03-01-2006
He usually counts his kills not his deaths...
Battleship discussion topic - Korrd - 03-01-2006
Angel,Mar 1 2006, 04:22 PM Wrote:Yeah, fun times, try using swarms there great havn't lost yet with them :crazy:Well, ive managed to survive. Barely.... the explosion took out all of the attached stuff. The ship's structural integrity after the explosion was only 5% (1/2 hull bar left)...
Only time i have died is battleing Korrd with his bomber and he fired Duel novas, actually killed us both i think..
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Had you sirvived to the explosion i wont be telling the story now ;)
Well, enough fighter discussion. Lets go back to topic ok?