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Insufficient of civilian vessels - Swallow - 04-28-2012
not to offend Jinx, but Civ Shuttle is ugly, and there is really not enough of LFs to chose from.
I have flied all of them multiple times and now I have no wish to return back to that ships.
Some of them are boring, because I've spent lots of hours on them- Griffin, Arrow, Surveyor. Anothers are just ugly - Civ shuttle, Falchion. Some of them I honestly dislike - Scimitar, T-Shark...
What to do? Steal House and faction tech?
Insufficient of civilian vessels - lw'nafh - 04-28-2012
There's enough transports and enough snubs, the real problem is the lack variety in civilian weapons.
Insufficient of civilian vessels - Swallow - 04-28-2012
Well yes, VHFs are at least have class 10 weaponory as option
Insufficient of civilian vessels - lw'nafh - 04-28-2012
' Wrote:Well yes, VHFs are at least have class 10 weaponory as optionNot everyone is willing to fork out 60million or more for a set of mediocre class 10s simply because some guy decided he wanted to buy out the other dealers and effectively monopolise the code market, while refusing to sell to a big chunk of the server population...
We need more than debs and flashies. Especially with the tech nerfs the way they are.
Insufficient of civilian vessels - Ash - 04-28-2012
As far as roleplay is concerned, i'm quite frustrated that we cannot use a heavy tanker. The cap at 3,600 is leaving most attempts at individual trading factions dead in the water. I couldn't give a monkeys about a 5k transport. But the tanker has many opportunities in RP as well as money related possibilities.
Insufficient of civilian vessels - MetalPheonix - 04-28-2012
' Wrote:Nerf-free VHF options for an indy pirate:Yeah I agree, I do have many choices Buuuut. I don't think I'd ever take an arrastra, scraper, courbe, or a plier into combat solely because they're mining ships, and I just wouldn't feel like I'm a hardcore pirate in a mining ship, I'd just feel as If i were desperate or something...But you've given me doubts on everything I've previously said. So with that In minf I'll check them out, and maybe end up owing you...
Eagle
Arrastra
Raven's Talon
Scraper
Virage
Sabre
90% nerf VHF options for an indy pirate:
Courbe (not sure)
Plier (not sure)
That's 8 choices. There are 37 VHFs in the game, so you as an indy pirate can use 22% of the VHFs with no or minor nerfs.
That's plenty.
Insufficient of civilian vessels - MetalPheonix - 04-28-2012
' Wrote:Not everyone is willing to fork out 60million or more for a set of mediocre class 10s simply because some guy decided he wanted to buy out the other dealers and effectively monopolise the code market, while refusing to sell to a big chunk of the server population...Oh, So that's where all the other codename dealers went.
We need more than debs and flashies. Especially with the tech nerfs the way they are.
Now I know why SN&C is dead now...nothing but cloaks and CAU8's.....
Insufficient of civilian vessels - Pancakes - 04-28-2012
Gunboats and weapons is what we need. There are plenty of good VHFs, HFs and LFs you can fly as civvy as well as transports (heck, you can even fly Bretonian royal liner!)
VHFs - Sabre, Eagle, Wasupu, RT - all these are darn good
HFs- Bayonet, Switchblade and Maurader here you have 3 out of the 4 best HFs and you can use em without any nerf.
Not to mention the fact that with Maurader you can use faction guns and then have core of any other HF since Marauder have 11k core normally.
LFs - already mentioned, Scimitar packs a lot of punch.
Insufficient of civilian vessels - lw'nafh - 04-28-2012
' Wrote:Oh, So that's where all the other codename dealers went.*Shrugs* I won't point fingers, but I'm sure you'd know what I was on about if you took a look at the code weapon distribution.
Now I know why SN&C is dead now...nothing but cloaks and CAU8's.....
ANYWAY.
I've always liked the civilian ships, some I haven't enjoyed the SIGHT of, but from a purely gameplay perspective they're all right.
As I said earlier. It's the WEAPONS we need. Flashpoints are horrible for someone like, say, me. I can't hit with them a lot of the time because my target gets all froggy on me.
Insufficient of civilian vessels - MetalPheonix - 04-28-2012
' Wrote:*Shrugs* I won't point fingers, but I'm sure you'd know what I was on about if you took a look at the code weapon distribution.I agree, It was fine until energy nerfs. All we needed was a factions permission to use their guns as a civvy. Now even when you do that, you suffer. So new weapons would actually help more than ships.
ANYWAY.
I've always liked the civilian ships, some I haven't enjoyed the SIGHT of, but from a purely gameplay perspective they're all right.
As I said earlier. It's the WEAPONS we need. Flashpoints are horrible for someone like, say, me. I can't hit with them a lot of the time because my target gets all froggy on me.