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SCRA Faction Feedback - Koolmo - 08-16-2008
I swear Jazz, if you make a faction called the SCAR on Shattered Worlds, I will hunt you down and smash you, every chance I get. Stop being silly, you don't have ANY ownership over the faction.
SCRA Faction Feedback - Jazz - 08-17-2008
dont make me claw you Kooley, I wouldnt do that. although SCAR sounds better than SCRA
SCRA Faction Feedback - Koolmo - 08-17-2008
Hahahah! Good one, old son. Now seriously, cool it. You've already crossed the line, now go back on the other side like a good boy or you're really going to regret it. Oh, and get out of my bloody thread.
SCRA Faction Feedback - bluntpencil2001 - 08-18-2008
Koolmo; a leader not known for undeserved patience.
SCRA Faction Feedback - Koolmo - 08-18-2008
Durn right! Nor diplomacy tact, or any of the other things I don't need in this life:D
SCRA Faction Feedback - GodsFavorite - 10-20-2008
SCRA is always fun to play with and good guys to chat with in skype.
SCRA Faction Feedback - Koolmo - 10-27-2008
Quck update here, this is the new pilot list breakdown, making it more streamlined than before:
Quote:Transmission to: SCRA Fighter CorpsIn other news, recruiting is up, vice and graft have skyrocketed, and we have no idea what's going to happen in the next mod version, although I am reliably informed there will be considerable changed to the ID, and that a 'Coalition' tag will be coming into use.
Comm ID: Grand Admiral McIntosh
Comrades, due to the recent expansion of the fighter corps, there has been a re-organization. Gold Wing will no longer be the training Wing, instead, it'll be the Line Squadron, replacing Red Wing in that role. In Command is Commissar-Captain Nikolaus Al-Rashid, who will also continue to administer the Coalition Customs Office. His right hand shall be Commander Anton Gorodetsky. Former Gold Wing Commander Bjorn Thorvaldson is promoted to full Commander. Here is the full personel list:
CO - Commissar-Captain Nikolaus Al-Rashid
XO - Commander Anton Gorodetsky
Commander Bjorn Thorvaldsson
Lieutenant Commander Fedya Weis
Lieutenant Commander Xing Ke Si (Chief Engineer of Fighter Corps)
Lieutenant Commander Alexi Karchov
Lieutenant Commander Vasiliy Prutko
Lieutenant Gabriel Mao
Lieutenant Viktor Sotskov
Lieutenant Luis Gellantra
Lieutenant Jason Roberts
Lieutenant Karol Olsav
Red Squadron shall be cut to four members, and as before shall be led by Commodore Ares O'Jovem. Members of Red Squadron are as follows:
Commodore Ares (Commander of Fighter Corps)
Captain Yuri Straitov (Tactics Officer of Fighter Corps)
Captain Miroslav Baranov (XO of Fighter Corps)
Commander Eugen Weise (Comms Officer of Fighter Corps)
The Following Junior Lieutenants are under training, in the newly formed Grey Wing. They shall be instructed by members of both senior wings, and are to be thrown into the fray as soon as practical.
Lieutenant Lars Schmidt
Lieutenant Ivan Voi
Lieutenant Mireille Ceyes
Comrades, I am extremely proud to lead such a force of death! No longer shall the capitalists overwhelm our pilots with sheer numbers, we shall drown them in their own blood! Let the revolution flow forwards, as one!
Transmission Ended
As for ships and system, no-one seems to know, and the chaps who were working on the projects have disapeared, so probably not. Again, it's all hearsay, and I've stolen too much from the treasury to be able to affort bribing people.
SCRA Faction Feedback - Jinx - 10-27-2008
just one thing i found a bit disturbing lately.
when i wrote about one of the tradeships receiving a namechange in the message dump. - the answer was ... at the very least - unexpectantly harsh. - now, in RP, i am aware of the harsh military tone of the faction - so there was not really a surprise...
but - - - it still was a surprise when it comes down to what the faction actually wants and how it deals with opportunities. the coalition is what we might call .... the USSR after the war. - something like a cold war collapsed - and the remains of the looser still alive and at least thinking to be kicking. ( knowing that the looser was actually the alliance, but depending on the long or the short intro sequence, the victory over the alliance was only dust, cause they got blown up - or maybe not )
so - imo - the coalition from my point of view is a faction that is much more than most other faction, dependent on what the common people think of them. - they are the normal peoples, the workers army - against an arrogant and oppressive leadership of the alliance.
for that, i can understand a resolute and rude tone against any military demand from the alliance or alliance influenced party ( like a house cooperation ) - but i had not expected such a reply to the zoners, who are known to have turned from the alliance and settled away from them.
what better friend can a coalition have? - traders that dislike the arrogance and decadency of the core that are filthy rich cause they have their own ideas of moral and trade anything that doesn t get them into trouble. - furthermore a faction that achieved to stay alive and managed to gain a status of neutrality through political expertise.
so, when i first asked for passage through the coalition guard system offering even compensations. - the answer was reasonable and appropriate. - not really welcome and hearty - but just like expected, expect for the part that the coalition officially denied the need for supplies as they were offered for the chance to take the little short cut.
the answer from the second request though - that only informed about the name change was so rude, that i had decided that no trader zoner char would continue the trade through the system, putting the system down to the first stage of punishment - which is ... not activly offering trade with the faction anymore.
thats the point that i was in ooc a little disappointed. i would have thought that such a faction needs the support ( not alliance, but support ) of at least such traders like the zoners that are known to dislike the very core of what the alliance stands for - pure capitalism, monpolism, decadence ( doesn t mean zoners don t like capitalism or money - they don t like it cause they cannot build a monopoly in the core of course - but even so )
of course, i know that there have been especially zoner traders that used o-52 as a shortcut without permission - or that there had been incidents with the zoners. - but what good is going the official way to write up requests, initiate the basic diplomatic measures to ensure trade when there is hardly a reasonable reply.
furthermore, sticking to the requests of the faction to the letter had no effect whatsoever in terms of a friendlier tone - in fact the tone got more rude.
so the critizism is not the tone or so. - thats an RP issue, but critizism is that i don t see a point in the RP there. if the coalition wants to be what they are supposed to be - an equivalent to russia or the USSR in terms of alliance = USA and allies vs. coalition = USSR and allies - i would expect a different RP or clearer forms of RP.
for a zoner, a possible "friend" - as far as that term can go for a neighbouring faction - the tone was more rude than even rheinland or liberty together - when a zoner appears in an adv. train full to the rim with artifacts.
however - the ingame RP was OK. - harsh, but patient enough. but when a zoner feels like a liberty trader - something is not really right.
mind, that was just based on the one contact lately that was sticking out. - but other than that, there wasn t any incident to furhter evaluate the faction from my side.
edit: it is often mistaken that a military regime or an oppressive dictatorship must be rude. - i do not think that is the case. rudeness where it can apply them though. when there is more to gain though - such regimes are hardly rude. even the USSR in the cold war was very kind to any "would be/might be" friend, especially rich ones. they would never apply a rude tone there and would never show impatience. - of course the tone between the USSR and USA wasnt rude either. - it was political rethoric, which was sophisticated and much more subtle ( at least most of the times ) real rudeness doesn t happen much in political terms. - even in war, opposing parties often uphold a certain politeness, even if it is only for show. - subtlety is harder to manage though - and in a game like freelancer almost impossible.
edit2: maybe its just perception ( well, sure it is ) - but the point is really.... - the zoners and coalition would be more friendly ingame than the zoners and the corsairs for example. - the coalition is more reliable than a bunch of outlaws - or so it should be. - ingame though, the corsairs are treating the zoners friendlier ( as long as the zoners abide to their laws - and assist the corsairs with goods ) - the tone is never getting harsh, cause both sides are winning.
so the critizism might be drawn from those facts that maybe the relationship between zoners and corsairs is somteims a bit too friendly, while it was too rude with the coalition. - meeting in the middle of both would be more appropriate, i guess.
SCRA Faction Feedback - Bjorn - 10-27-2008
Jinx, your imput is valued one since it does give insight to some viewpoints about SCRA, but you mish have missed few things. Let me explain.
Your namechange info. Reply to it was redirect, not denial. Harsh response is due to character answering it, eg. grand admiral McIntosh. Who is nutter in his own right.
Your request was accepted first time, and is still valid. Also anyone can request passage, but it will be reviewed and pobably denied. Difference of this is Zoner and IMG ships, but only if they do not pass deuterium, arms or fuel to our enemies. Actually, if they are properly tagged and ID-ed, they will only be asked to indentify with patrol. Thats bout it.
Now even if zoners do share some ideals with us, they are regarded as cowards, because even if they shun goverments and alike, they still do nothing. They are hiding from reality. In our eyes it is not enough.
Also, we do not try to represent soviet russia in any stage. Our propaganda does depend on speech to workers and opressed, but only because they are easy targets to rebel. Actually, we are only here to finish what we started in sol as idea, and implement our rule, over houses. We are not really concerned with socialist agenda, since most characters in it are here for revenge, out of hate or something alike. Also we do not see our selves confronting alliance because they are alliance, but because megalomanic ideas.
I mean, there is no point in me shouting at someone "Alliance scum" because my char was born on sheffield, and is same as them by origin. Ideas are different tho.
SCRA Faction Feedback - bluntpencil2001 - 10-27-2008
' Wrote:We are not really concerned with socialist agenda, since most characters in it are here for revenge, out of hate or something alike. Also we do not see our selves confronting alliance because they are alliance, but because megalomanic ideas.
I mean, there is no point in me shouting at someone "Alliance scum" because my char was born on sheffield, and is same as them by origin.
I'll have to say that there are some errors here.
The SCRA are a socialist revolution. However, it incorporates both positive and negative. We do fight the alliance because they are alliance, but also because of various individual character traits.
And, yes, you can shout Alliance scum, even if originally Alliance. That would be like Han Solo saying something about how he dislikes Imperials, even though he attended the Imperial Academy.
However, I must disagree about the Zoners, Jinx.
Zoners are possibly diametrically opposed in their politics to the SCRA. The SCRA are generally tolerant of Zoners, seeing as how they aren't troublemakers. They are the opposite politically though. The SCRA tend towards an authoritarian leftist agenda, whereas the Zoners appear to be libertarian in their governance. The SCRA take issue with the Zoner ideology... their ultra-free trade approach. They deliver goods to various enemies of the People, for instance. If the Coalition were to get too friendly with such groups, their popular support would see them as sell-outs, no different from the governments which crook their knees to corporations.
Oh, and for the record... a Liberty trader wouldn't have gotten through. They'd be told to leave, a few times, then destroyed if they didn't. There would be little to no chance at being waved through.
The SCRA is more likely to recruit from criminal groups, although we have an ex-Zoner with us, which is hinted at in our recruitment thread... I put up a couple of posts about criminals in both Liberty and Rheinland joining the SCRA.