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RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - Kampanom - 04-07-2014
It isn't really realistic.
In real life, if you send someone to the hospital, you don't pay for the cures of the poor taffer.
Ok, bad, weird, just wrong example which can only come from an unhealthy mind like mine, but you should understand what it means.
Not to mention it actually would make people more aggressive and trigger-happy. If they get half a million each time they kill someone...
RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - aakopa - 04-07-2014
No, I don't want to loose more cash.
RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - Savas - 04-07-2014
No, no realism of any kind please.
RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - Singularity - 04-07-2014
Well, as said there are much complications about this. More for the new guys.
RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - nOmnomnOm - 04-07-2014
I never say this.
but....
FINAL NAIL!
RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - Binski - 04-07-2014
(04-07-2014, 02:57 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: FINAL NAIL!
THATS IT ITS OVER
Nah, although I understand where the idea is coming from, its generally accepted already that ships are 'replaced' after a pvp death by a new ship or repaired old one. Aannnndd you already buy back ammo and botts. Most people RP that they're escape pods were picked up and made it back to base. I like how it can rp'd around a bit. Allows for some creativity when retelling a story of an encounter. Usually, if it comes up in discussion, I rp that my ship, being critically damaged, was towed back and repaired.
If you want to start worrying about making this game more realistic, how about making it so an NPC fighter can't send a battleship or large transport twirling around in every which direction when it bumps into them.
Or larger planets and stars, like wayyy larger. So battles can happen in the skies over a planet, down nice and low, but still not too low to cause destruction. I always felt that the celestial objects and stations could be a bit more spaced out to use up some of the volume each system has. These things interest me more when it comes to realism than the pvp death system.
RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - SnakeLancerHaven - 04-07-2014
(04-07-2014, 01:36 PM)Narcotic Wrote: If you want a "death penalty", create a commoditiy like "Fuel Canister" which costs 4 millions, and is required to run your engine - otherwise you wouldn't be able to thrust and cruise.
We already have such for the wild cloaks, which require a powercell, costing 4 millions (used to be 1 million before), to run their cloak. So every time they die. They got to buy a new one.
That combined with ammo costs, gets you to +5 millions each death. I for example "lost" already hundreds of millions with that.
Not bad (smoke) kinda second this
RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - Thyrzul - 04-07-2014
(04-07-2014, 10:36 AM)Pancakes Wrote:(04-07-2014, 10:30 AM)Omicron Wrote: Hell yes, we deffinately need a way to send n00bs, newbs and all sorts of undesired by some players to oblivion, not to mention reducing overall willingness of entire playerbase (with few pvp gifted individuals as an exception) to actually fly farther than 5k from their planet/static battleship. GG, please continue. Sarcasm aside, are you drunk?
This.
There are already enough people who do anything in order to not lose a fight. This will just make people more dire, bitter and would further discourage people from playing here. (From both ends, really).
Discovery shieldrun 24/7
(04-07-2014, 10:47 AM)Lady Kazinsal Wrote: No.
No no no no.
Nooooooooooooo.
This kills the Discovery.
(04-07-2014, 10:59 AM)Omicron Wrote: [Pic]
(04-07-2014, 11:00 AM)Corundum Wrote: We are already paying more than half a million to just replenish mines and CDs on death. Add some missiles and/or torpedoes and it gets even higher.
The funny thing is flying a battleship costs about as much as flying a bomber ...
AMAGAD AMAGAD, HOLY HELL, NOOOONONONO FINAL NAIIIIIL!!!!
I NEED TO TRADE 2 MINUTES MORE PER DEATH, HELL NO
FINAL NAIL, OMG!
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people? This isn't to discourage PvP, it is to encourage trading. Making money is already god damn easy. It's only rough at the beggining, so for new guys i'd say civvy shuttle and freighter are to be excempt from this kind of fee. Result: People can trade in a few stuff without having to lose cash when blown up.
I NEED TO TRADE 2 MINUTES MORE PER DEATH, HELL NO
FINAL NAIL, OMG!
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people? This isn't to discourage PvP, it is to encourage trading. Making money is already god damn easy. It's only rough at the beggining, so for new guys i'd say civvy shuttle and freighter are to be excempt from this kind of fee. Result: People can trade in a few stuff without having to lose cash when blown up.
(04-07-2014, 11:24 AM)Singularity Wrote: I understand what you are saying and its actually "realistic" but you have to consider situations like this -
"I got 500 millions, I buy a BS for 480-490 million, I got 10 million with me just.
If you are intelligent enough to leave yourself only with 10 millions after cap purchase, oh well...
(04-07-2014, 01:12 PM)Tal Wrote: This'll only amplify the "I don't wanna die!" aspect of playing this game.
And it'll piss off Pancakes again, too.
(04-07-2014, 01:39 PM)Saronsen Wrote: How about no.
I barely run on the credits I have as it is.
IDONTWANNATRADEEEE, ITKILLSDISCOOOOO
(04-07-2014, 01:45 PM)Kampanom Wrote: In real life...
In real life you pay full price for repairs of your car if trashed/crashed, partial if you paid for insurance prior to the crash.
(04-07-2014, 01:54 PM)aakopa Wrote: No, I don't want to loose more cash.
NONONO, IDONTWANNATRADEANDBEACTIVEEEEE
(04-07-2014, 01:56 PM)Savas Wrote: No, no realism of any kind please.
ACTIVITYKILLSDISCOOOOO!!!
Like a bunch of crybabies, seriously. Crying like it couldn't be developed in a way not to be a deterrent for PvP and still be a money sink at the same time.
Different versions (for each ship class with different prices) of that fuel canister thing would be interesting though.
Like a bunch of crybabies, seriously. Crying like it couldn't be developed in a way not to be a deterrent for PvP and still be a money sink at the same time.
Different versions (for each ship class with different prices) of that fuel canister thing would be interesting though.
RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - E.T. - 04-07-2014
Well snake i know what you mean.. Crossfire for example have a plugin that when someone comes online with a ship which has a bounty on its head its shown in the game. Payouts and such go by it as well. It might simplefy the bounty boards a lot. Giving the factions/players a command to put bounties on people their head. something like
/bounty <name> <amount> <how many times> <reason>
it would be an idea to simplefy and resurrect the bhg faction. No offence but i have never seen it active during my time in here.
And for the complaining people for lack of money.. Might be some time to invest into ore trading? I i made a day 500 to 700 millions (depending on my free time then) im sure you all can do the same.
RE: Weird idea of making Disco a lil more realistic - Nerva - 04-07-2014
(04-07-2014, 04:08 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: AMAGAD AMAGAD, HOLY HELL, NOOOONONONO FINAL NAIIIIIL!!!!
I NEED TO TRADE 2 MINUTES MORE PER DEATH, HELL NO
FINAL NAIL, OMG!
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people? This isn't to discourage PvP, it is to encourage trading. Making money is already god damn easy. It's only rough at the beggining, so for new guys i'd say civvy shuttle and freighter are to be excempt from this kind of fee. Result: People can trade in a few stuff without having to lose cash when blown up.
UNLEASH THE CAPS RAGE!!1!one!!
Adding some penalty on death, like proposed in the OP won't make people who do not trade (like me) to suddenly start trading. The reason is we already have more than enough money. Actually, the only moneysink for me is buying new ships every once in a while. Whether I have to pay 0.5M (ammo) or 1M (ammo + penalty) is utterly insignificant.
The people who are going to be affected are new players who don't have much money. And they are already actively trading to buy bigger transports or shiny caps.
The only way to "fix" this is to do server wipe. Probably not an option.
Anyway, the easiest way to implement penalty on death is to increase regen cost up to about 3000 credits per piece.