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RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Swifty - 01-09-2015
(01-09-2015, 05:09 PM)Toris James Gray Wrote:(01-09-2015, 05:02 PM)Carter Wrote:(01-09-2015, 04:08 PM)Toris James Gray Wrote: If NPCs would be removed, we quit the game then and move into Hamburg. This is roleplay server and we don't want PvE possibility erased from the game. You want PvP? Good, but don't force us to do PvP as well.
In that case, i will take the freedom to say goodbye to you then. I agree with Moriarty, NPCs have been a pain in the butt lately with it's annoying spawns. There are just too many of them.
We are no asking them to -remove- them, we're asking for their spawn number to decrease a lil bit, because they ruin EVERYTHING. If you like NPCs so much, Single Player is always open for you.
I'm not sure if you can't read or you are... Read it up pal: We just want PvE. It is PAIN to hunt for NPCs with other players when there's >100 player count. NPCs don't even spawn on the most populated by NPCs.
Guess what, nevermind. Just... Nevermind.
I can read, and with all honesty, all i saw was someone crying out loud for NPCs, because they're so important right? What would you say if... let's say - You're fighting someone, you're literally owning that someone and then out of nowhere 2000000000000 Snubs, Gunboats, BSs, BCs and hell knows what else spawn in front of you. That someone uses them as cover and you just get instaed by those NPCs. What would you say then? Thank the NPCs?
You have no idea how it feels to have your game ruined because of a stupid NPC spawn right in the middle of your fight so your argument is invalid. Like i said, you want 1000000000000000s of NPCs? You have Single Player for that.
RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Fluffyball - 01-09-2015
(01-09-2015, 05:16 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Looks like other people countered your four points. My opinion is generally in line with theirs.
Toris if you want to hunt NPCs, go play singleplayer. I hate to sound blunt but multiplayer is for playing against/with other players. NPCs should only be scenery at the very least, however even then they still continue to bug and annoy the majority of the playerbase by not only interfering with PvP, but RP also.
So what if I decide to take my pirate faction character near a lawful base? Am I not allowed to RP how I like? Must I be bogged down by unfair and quite frankly ridiculous game mechanics which should have absolutely zero presence in a multiplayer game?
You can't read, can you? I said about TEAMING up with other PLAYERS against NPCs. But if you blind, can't help you? God fucking damn it.
Fine, I will shut up. You had it. I'll go to another server for PvE, but then wouldn't it be better if my time was spent on here? No? Good. Don't care anymore.
RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Swifty - 01-09-2015
(01-09-2015, 05:20 PM)Toris James Gray Wrote:(01-09-2015, 05:16 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Looks like other people countered your four points. My opinion is generally in line with theirs.
Toris if you want to hunt NPCs, go play singleplayer. I hate to sound blunt but multiplayer is for playing against/with other players. NPCs should only be scenery at the very least, however even then they still continue to bug and annoy the majority of the playerbase by not only interfering with PvP, but RP also.
So what if I decide to take my pirate faction character near a lawful base? Am I not allowed to RP how I like? Must I be bogged down by unfair and quite frankly ridiculous game mechanics which should have absolutely zero presence in a multiplayer game?
You can't read, can you? I said about TEAMING up with other PLAYERS against NPCs. But if you blind, can't help you? God ***** damn it.
So much salt.
Please tell me where the hell is the fun in teaming against something who can't even Role Play?
RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Fluffyball - 01-09-2015
I dunno... heard about something that is called... co-op? We want to roleplay PvE. Don't take it away from us, will you?
RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Lythrilux - 01-09-2015
(01-09-2015, 05:20 PM)Toris James Gray Wrote: You can't read, can you? I said about TEAMING up with other PLAYERS against NPCs. But if you blind, can't help you? God ***** damn it.Yeah but who wants to actually do that inRP beyond the purpose of missions? NPCs are nothing but a means to an end. They can't be viewed as just ends, like players can be. Sure, they can be interacted with however not to the extent nor the standard that players can be interacted with.
And in fact, if your desire is to hunt them, why can't they just exist in missions and nothing else? There is really no need for NPCs to be around to contribute to the ambiance of the environment. Those who want to partake in PvE can have their wish [b]without[b/] having the gameplay ruined for others.
RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Fluffyball - 01-09-2015
Do as you wish. Don't be suprised if some players will start leaving, due to lifeless and empty systems. We have already too many systems that are empty. We are not EVE, we can't replace NPCs with players. Kusari is dead, Gallia is dead.
Well then... lemme guess... oh yes, I can't do much RP in Kusari... Same inside Gallia... Yeah... No players there, because players are too lazy to move there. Yep. Good idea, decrease NPCs. VERY good idea. To make some places even more senseless and empty.
GG.
RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Lythrilux - 01-09-2015
Are you seriously trying to infer that players are going to leave because there won't be any NPCs? Are you seriously implying that AI-controlled ships that have 2 or 3 generic phrases that we've all heard 9000 times add life to a system? And furthermore that they contribute to activity, instead of the in game interactions and encounters created by players?
You can't be serious. No way.
Since you edited your post I'll edit mine:
NPCs add nothing to Kusari and Gallia. I'm not sure what you see, but right now I'm seeing hardly any players in Gallia and even less in Kusari. If we want Kusari and Gallia to be alive, then we do so by cutting systems, adding good traderoutes and so forth.
RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Swifty - 01-09-2015
(01-09-2015, 05:23 PM)Toris James Gray Wrote: I dunno... heard about something that is called... co-op? We want to roleplay PvE. Don't take it away from us, will you?
I still have no clue how many people you mean by "we". But i'm damn sure there are a lot more people around here than you who actually have a problem with the NPCs. It's our request against yours.
Co-op is even funnier agains other players. Let's be serious, NPCs are easy kills, Non-RPing usless robots. After all, this is a Roleplay server. Why would we need such useless tools around here?
RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Highland Laddie - 01-09-2015
(01-09-2015, 12:06 PM)Bulldog. Wrote: Sounds Interesting....Reminds me alot of MW4's Autocannon's
Reminds me more of Battletech's Gauss rifle, which is just a variant of mass driver weapon.
I like the idea...although with the mechanics of it, you'd think it would do little to no shield damage, but a LARGE amount of hull damage. Might be a good new weapon for BS.
RE: IDEA: New Projectile-based Machine Gun for Battleships? - Swifty - 01-09-2015
On topic - The idea seems tempting. The useless Zappers could be removed for those cannons.