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RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - Lythrilux - 01-03-2016
(01-03-2016, 09:19 PM)Findarato Veneanar Wrote:(01-03-2016, 09:06 PM)TheUnforgiven Wrote: Can we elaborate on the exact cause of that harm? I see people say stuff like that but don't go far into details.
Ol' Sin explains it fairly well in this thread.
That seems awfully one sided though.
RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - Dimon - 01-03-2016
Back to Caps of version 85? Yes. Sure. Why not. Ok. Do it. You have two of my hands voting yus.
RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - The Savage - 01-03-2016
(01-03-2016, 09:24 PM)TheUnforgiven Wrote: Can we elaborate on the exact cause of that harm? I see people say stuff like that but don't go far into details.Removing both TS should be followed by gunboats and some battletransports getting serious buffs. That would save them from being classes that no one wants to fly, as they heavily rely on TS in their current form.
RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - Durandal - 01-05-2016
I wouldn't be saddened in the slightest to see zoom disappear from gunboats and maybe cruisers. Battleships are terrible already as is and should keep it for sure.
TS on the other hand should not be going anywhere.
RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - Yber - 01-05-2016
people saying that caps would need a buff because bombers would obliterate them
gunboats obliterate snubs completely 1-sidedly
that's how it's supposed to be right??
double standards much
RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - sindroms - 01-05-2016
Because fighters are the cheapest ship you can physically buy. They are not specialized to anything. Your argument is invalid.
Battleships are 1,4bil worth ships that can be taken out without any loss by a pair of bombers at a total cost of 50 million credits. At that point a person having spent two weeks of grinding for money goes to invest their time into other games.
RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - Traxit - 01-05-2016
(01-05-2016, 02:58 PM)sindroms Wrote: Because fighters are the cheapest ship you can physically buy. They are not specialized to anything. Your argument is invalid.
Battleships are 1,4bil worth ships that can be taken out without any loss by a pair of bombers at a total cost of 50 million credits. At that point a person having spent two weeks of grinding for money goes to invest their time into other games.
Fighters in groups should do something to a battleship, all those "my BS got rekt by 2 snubs!!!!! buff armor!!!!!" is straight up crap pulled from someones rear. 5 VHFs would still take upto 15 minutes to kill a BS, and 15 minutes is a lot of time to go near a base or call for anti-snub support.
RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - Yber - 01-05-2016
so you think that money grinding is the only grinding in the game?
2 weeks of trading for a cau VIII BS is nothing, i've grinded 2500+ hours of training alone in snubs, probably longer than you've played this game overall, and certainly more than most people in discovery
your argument is invalid and biased, and your thread is pointless
RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - Lythrilux - 01-05-2016
Fighters shouldn't be trying to touch capitals at all. That's the bombers job. Ok, perhaps they should be slightly potent against gunboats but that's it.
RE: Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction - Wesker - 01-05-2016
Gunboats can be obliterated by 3 good bomber pilots or even snub pilots. Gunboats can also win as well removing turret zoom would only make them useful for shooting vhfs. Cruisers would have the largest impact without tz battleships and bombers would become more deadly imo. Coming my perspective cruisers are the most deadly class in this mod. Gunboats can damage snubs and play a support role but even when I'm on a Gb I don't often get the blues. People complain about gbs being op when bombers are with them, it's not the ship it's the teamwork combined with bombers that shows a gbs true power. Dessies on the other hand are 1 man army ships if properly used. I know from personal experience, mount 1 razor and 2 cerbs on a medium Dessie or 2 razors 2 cerbs on a heavy and your capable of ruining fleets.
Light battleships would be useless without ts/tz. They rely on ts/tz to group fight effectively when the team lacks coordination.
Also people are saying tz is too much on gbs and cruisers. Any gb/cruiser pilot who's good will tell you zooming out over 6clicks is too much. Tz isn't excessive or ts imo.