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RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - The Savage - 01-30-2016
(01-30-2016, 11:18 AM)Yber Wrote: how many attention threads have been done this month?
Not enough it seems. Jokingly quoting Lyth:
Quote:I don't care it is ineffective, more Makos!
On a more serious note, Ageira, Sindroms and a few other people pointed out sort of discrepancy about the in-game actions, forum roleplay and actual Devs' plans. But, as I said somewhere, it is very hard to find compromise between actual player influence and Dev Team's deciding about influx of stuff into game. Giving players too much freedom in shaping lore could cause disaster, but at the same time ignoring their roleplay or logical suggestions is also a bad solution. It's not about Devs vs Community, but about Devs AND Community.
RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - Yber - 01-30-2016
it's about HF getting a BC and a base 1 week after durandal took over xdd
but the fact that it's spazzy complaining about it makes everything void
RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - Vendetta - 01-30-2016
(01-30-2016, 11:18 AM)Yber Wrote: how many attention threads have been done this month?
14.
And to further address the later points, the Judicator wasnt added with us knowing, I believe it was Alley who added it. The base was necessary, and probably could've been implemented better. However, nothing will stop people in this community from complaining.
(01-30-2016, 09:00 AM)Ageira Wrote: We want to know why Lead System Developer and Hellfire leader ( @Durandal ) refuses to find a peaceful solution to this problem, where official roleplay conducted by official faction with oversight by developer team, that reached out to many factions and created lasting effect, is partially contradicted by inwards, solo RP in stories forum that didn't involve a single outside faction and later on was introduced as a system change in a form of missing Bering->Hamburg JumpGate without concern or respect for others.
And all we ask is to change the date of the Operation Anvil to a date after Ageira made Scientific Report by Sebastian Hart on Hudson and Bering Jump Gates, thus starting a string of roleplay, known as Hudson Crisis so that it makes logical sense that can be incorporated into lore.
And while we understand that Operation Anvil was done first, at no point was Ageira contacted by Hellfire to organise something more interesting than just a string of stories' posts. Even when Ageira went ingame to conduct the investigation mission, participants encountered a Hellfire ship as Scientific Report by Oleg Nikolayevich Petrov on Hudson Gate describes, nothing was mentioned by the Lord Commander Locklear ( @Durandal ). No opportunity to make interesting roleplay, involving more than single faction, was seized.
As @Durandal said, "Make love, not forum drama.", so we invite you to abide by your words in transparent in respectful way that contributes the community, not a single faction and hurting the other(s). Ageira's goal is to conduct roleplay reaching beyond Ageira. Help us achieve that.
EDIT: Now that you have been linked this message, we are waiting for your response.
Hi Snak3.
We arent changing the date. Sorry. It happened, and Ageira wasn't involved. Illegal salvaging of a jumpgate, and I know you really wouldn't be all that interested in coordinating an event with us.
RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - Durandal - 01-30-2016
(01-30-2016, 01:55 PM)Yber Wrote: it's about HF getting a BC and a base 1 week after durandal took over xdd
but the fact that it's spazzy complaining about it makes everything void
Oh my god go away dude seriously.
Actually that doesn't just apply to Yber. I'm not interested in what you're selling, Snak3. Go peddle it on teamspeak to someone who cares about whaaa dev bias illegitimate faction etc etc.
Oh, and for the record? This is the harassment I have to deal with from this person, just to throw it out there for all the community to see.
Quote:[1/6/2016 4:20:20 AM | Edited 4:20:43 AM] Snak3: Is there a possibility to date towing to the day of update?
[1/6/2016 1:45:51 PM] Snak3: Is there a possibility to date towing to the day of update?
[1/6/2016 2:12:49 PM] Snak3: Boom chakalaka.
[1/6/2016 2:13:08 PM] Snak3: An answer would be nice. I hope we can sort it all properly.
[1/6/2016 3:28:37 PM] Snak3: Or even to a few days after Hudson Crisis RP was started, so that Ageira could have probable RP to disassemble gates and stay silent about missing components.
[1/7/2016 2:01:07 AM] Snak3: ....
[1/7/2016 3:56:51 PM] Snak3: Boom chakalaka.
[1/8/2016 10:47:03 AM] Snak3: Hello?
[1/8/2016 3:41:09 PM] Snak3: Alright. I was really hoping we can sort it out properly, like adults in civilised manner.
[1/8/2016 3:41:41 PM] Snak3: Seems that you choose to ignore me. Most unfortunate, considering devs are supposed to improve the mod, not hold it back.
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No, I'm not interested in dealing with somebody who pisses on me, my faction, the devteam, and generally does nothing but stomps his feet and cries when he doesn't get his way. Maybe you can try finding a more receptive dev, then wonder why THEY stop ignoring you even though they have no personal interest in the subject matter.
It's because you're annoying as all hell
RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - Antonio - 01-30-2016
(01-30-2016, 02:32 PM)Vendetta Wrote: The base was necessary
Except that it wasn't. There's a Xeno base in Ontario which is a system right next to California. You can also dock in Colorado, Pennsylvania, Kepler, Hudson, Minnesota and obviously Vespucci/Alabama. Hell, Ouray's location is so good that you don't even need to use anything else. At least the location could've been picked better, like somewhere in Magellan close to the Vespucci hole, which actually makes sense inRP.
RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - Durandal - 01-30-2016
(01-30-2016, 02:50 PM)Antonio Wrote:(01-30-2016, 02:32 PM)Vendetta Wrote: The base was necessary
Except that it wasn't. There's a Xeno base in Ontario which is a system right next to California. You can also dock in Colorado, Pennsylvania, Kepler, Hudson, Minnesota and obviously Vespucci/Alabama. Hell, Ouray's location is so good that you don't even need to use anything else. At least the location could've been picked better, like somewhere in Magellan close to the Vespucci hole, which actually makes sense inRP.
Milford doesn't make sense in RP because it's too far away from Alabama, go move it to the Kepler jumphole in Colorado along with all your other bases.
RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - sindroms - 01-30-2016
(01-30-2016, 02:38 PM)Durandal Wrote:(01-30-2016, 01:55 PM)Yber Wrote: it's about HF getting a BC and a base 1 week after durandal took over xdd
but the fact that it's spazzy complaining about it makes everything void
Oh my god go away dude seriously.
Actually that doesn't just apply to Yber. I'm not interested in what you're selling, Snak3. Go peddle it on teamspeak to someone who cares about whaaa dev bias illegitimate faction etc etc.
Oh, and for the record? This is the harassment I have to deal with from this person, just to throw it out there for all the community to see.
Quote:[1/6/2016 4:20:20 AM | Edited 4:20:43 AM] Snak3: Is there a possibility to date towing to the day of update?
[1/6/2016 1:45:51 PM] Snak3: Is there a possibility to date towing to the day of update?
[1/6/2016 2:12:49 PM] Snak3: Boom chakalaka.
[1/6/2016 2:13:08 PM] Snak3: An answer would be nice. I hope we can sort it all properly.
[1/6/2016 3:28:37 PM] Snak3: Or even to a few days after Hudson Crisis RP was started, so that Ageira could have probable RP to disassemble gates and stay silent about missing components.
[1/7/2016 2:01:07 AM] Snak3: ....
[1/7/2016 3:56:51 PM] Snak3: Boom chakalaka.
[1/8/2016 10:47:03 AM] Snak3: Hello?
[1/8/2016 3:41:09 PM] Snak3: Alright. I was really hoping we can sort it out properly, like adults in civilised manner.
[1/8/2016 3:41:41 PM] Snak3: Seems that you choose to ignore me. Most unfortunate, considering devs are supposed to improve the mod, not hold it back.
No, I'm not interested in dealing with somebody who pisses on me, my faction, the devteam, and generally does nothing but stomps his feet and cries when he doesn't get his way. Maybe you can try finding a more receptive dev, then wonder why THEY stop ignoring you even though they have no personal interest in the subject matter.
It's because you're annoying as all hell
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I think we are done here, by the way. I already got in touch with a few people after posting this thread and I have been le-content with what I was bribtold.
Experiment successful.
RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - Alley - 01-30-2016
The HF BC is a moot point. Durandal had nothing to do with it and wasn't even around at the time. I added it myself to the game files after an admin discussion related to the official HF being unable to use their own Battleship due to an ID restriction. Adding it was basically there to provide a cruiser for the experimental third capital front, as at the time it was purely LN vs Rogue Scyllas and RM was dead as hell.
RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - Kauket - 01-30-2016
(01-30-2016, 02:38 PM)Durandal Wrote: It's because you're annoying as all hellOne of the main reasons why I wouldn't want to dev for this mod, LOL.
The California base is fine and that side of the unlawful people in Liberty don't have a lot of options to hide at anyway. Xenos would have to run to Pennyslyvania, Ontario>Colorado, Texas, or Magellan>Vespucci to go to the nearest bases
Most of the time, I see people whining to get things in when they've hardly worked for it, or even had a proper discussion with one of the developers.
Gee. People should be thankful for even putting up with half of the communities attitude, and actually getting things done whilst putting up with it. Sure, there can be bias here and there, and people having the logic relatable to a brick, but harassing others is just going to make them listen less to your ideas and suggestions.
(Yeah, I didn't really read this thread entirely, bite me. )
RE: I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam - Sylvie557 - 01-30-2016
(01-30-2016, 02:38 PM)Durandal Wrote: Oh, and for the record? This is the harassment I have to deal with from this person, just to throw it out there for all the community to see.
Quote:[1/6/2016 4:20:20 AM | Edited 4:20:43 AM] Snak3: Is there a possibility to date towing to the day of update?
[1/6/2016 1:45:51 PM] Snak3: Is there a possibility to date towing to the day of update?
[1/6/2016 2:12:49 PM] Snak3: Boom chakalaka.
[1/6/2016 2:13:08 PM] Snak3: An answer would be nice. I hope we can sort it all properly.
[1/6/2016 3:28:37 PM] Snak3: Or even to a few days after Hudson Crisis RP was started, so that Ageira could have probable RP to disassemble gates and stay silent about missing components.
[1/7/2016 2:01:07 AM] Snak3: ....
[1/7/2016 3:56:51 PM] Snak3: Boom chakalaka.
[1/8/2016 10:47:03 AM] Snak3: Hello?
[1/8/2016 3:41:09 PM] Snak3: Alright. I was really hoping we can sort it out properly, like adults in civilised manner.
[1/8/2016 3:41:41 PM] Snak3: Seems that you choose to ignore me. Most unfortunate, considering devs are supposed to improve the mod, not hold it back.
Ummm, how is this even close to harassment? Looks like he just poked you a few times then got a bit annoyed when you didn't answer. Should he have been more patient and refrained from getting salty at the end, sure but calling that harassment is just silly. Don't really have a dog in this fight but I do tend to agree with others that the new base being included was not really needed for game play reasons as there was plenty of Xeno bases the Hellfire have access to in Liberty and should have had a bit more build up inRP beforehand since it represents the first hellfire owned base being constructed not only outside of Vesppucci but also inside of Liberty core space.