ID changes Feedback - Printable Version

ID changes Feedback - Printable Version

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RE: ID changes Feedback - Stefz - 04-13-2016

(04-10-2016, 10:56 AM)Gulryz Wrote: Luc have some valid points like house cap noobs rolling around and forcing RP, for this kind of problem I would suggest limiting Battleships, Carriers and assault carriers to Official factions , this will also help in increasing faction activity a bit

This idea was discussed all the way back in 2011 or something, and one of the main problems with it is that it's way too late to be enforced. There are a LOT of indies flying caps and taking them away would probably cause most of those indies to just quit the game. If anything, it should've been done a very long time ago when Discovery was in its early stages, but doing it now will shrink the player base even further.

RE: ID changes Feedback - Gulryz - 04-13-2016

(04-13-2016, 06:15 AM)Shinju Wrote: Intelligence agencies are Quasi-Lawful.

I know admins did those changes back but all of them are considered lawful by everyone nobody treat them the Quasi-Lawful way

RE: ID changes Feedback - SnakThree - 04-13-2016

(04-13-2016, 07:28 AM)Gulryz Wrote:
(04-13-2016, 06:15 AM)Shinju Wrote: Intelligence agencies are Quasi-Lawful.

I know admins did those changes back but all of them are considered lawful by everyone nobody treat them the Quasi-Lawful way

IDs says they are Quasi-Lawful.

RE: ID changes Feedback - Gulryz - 04-13-2016

(04-13-2016, 07:12 AM)Stefz Wrote:
(04-10-2016, 10:56 AM)Gulryz Wrote: Luc have some valid points like house cap noobs rolling around and forcing RP, for this kind of problem I would suggest limiting Battleships, Carriers and assault carriers to Official factions , this will also help in increasing faction activity a bit

This idea was discussed all the way back in 2011 or something, and one of the main problems with it is that it's way too late to be enforced. There are a LOT of indies flying caps and taking them away would probably cause most of those indies to just quit the game. If anything, it should've been done a very long time ago when Discovery was in its early stages, but doing it now will shrink the player base even further.

Limiting indies to house ZOI will be a good move then like Libery Navy indies can only use caps in house of liberty and systems directly attaching with liberty

RE: ID changes Feedback - Triple Hazard Pay Inc. - 04-13-2016

What of unofficial factions like RM? What happens to them?

RE: ID changes Feedback - Gulryz - 04-13-2016

(04-13-2016, 07:28 AM)Snak3 Wrote:
(04-13-2016, 07:28 AM)Gulryz Wrote:
(04-13-2016, 06:15 AM)Shinju Wrote: Intelligence agencies are Quasi-Lawful.

I know admins did those changes back but all of them are considered lawful by everyone nobody treat them the Quasi-Lawful way

IDs says they are Quasi-Lawful.

Yea you are right I meant nobody treat them that way even the player playing intelligence factions act like lawfuls

RE: ID changes Feedback - Gulryz - 04-13-2016

(04-13-2016, 07:32 AM)Triple Hazard Pay Inc. Wrote: What of unofficial factions like RM? What happens to them?

they remain in house of rheinland and defend its borders ( systems directly linking with rheinland) until they become official to invade

RE: ID changes Feedback - Pinko - 04-15-2016

(04-15-2016, 08:38 PM)Laz Wrote: ID NAME: Pirate ID
CURRENT ID TEXT (in game is different to wiki):
Spoiler
Independent Pirates are people who want to make money by extorting it from others or through other unlawful means. An independent pirate acts only for his own benefit, and has no allegiance to anyone.
Pilot carrying this unlawful ID is a Pirate, who:
Can attack any ship in self-defense or to protect a ship of the same affiliation.
Can demand cargo and credits from fighters, freighters and transports within house space and attack them if they do not comply.
Can demand cargo and credits from any ship outside of house space (Bold and Italic) and attack them if they do not comply.
Cannot use any transports with more than 3,600 cargo, except for the Pirate Train.
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats

PROPOSED CHANGES/ADDITIONS:
Spoiler
Independent Pirates are people who want to make money by extorting it from others or through other unlawful means. An independent pirate acts only for his own benefit, and has no allegiance to anyone.
Pilot carrying this unlawful ID is a Pirate, who:
Can attack any ship in self-defense or to protect a ship of the same affiliation.
Can demand cargo and credits from any ship, and attack them if they do not comply.
Cannot use any transports with more than 3,600 cargo, except for the Pirate Train.
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats
JUSTIFICATION FOR CHANGES:
Spoiler
In my mind i see no reason for a pirate to treat house space and non house space differently in terms of what they can request. Like what is the point of this rule?
~Tell me if there is a reason I am unaware of

It's because people used the ID to pirate Snubs in house space, effectively making them able to engage anyone anywhere, which is against the spirit of the ID.

RE: ID changes Feedback - Laz - 04-15-2016

(04-15-2016, 10:43 PM)Pinko Wrote: It's because people used the ID to pirate Snubs in house space, effectively making them able to engage anyone anywhere, which is against the spirit of the ID.

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to use a Liberty Rouge or other Criminal ID? Better equipment... etc...

RE: ID changes Feedback - Emperor Tekagi - 04-15-2016

(04-15-2016, 10:59 PM)Laz Wrote: Wouldn't it make more sense for them to use a Liberty Rouge or other Criminal ID? Better equipment... etc...

Would restrict them to their ZoI. As indie pirate they could pirate snubs everywhere. So it makes sense that it isn't possible.