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RE: Why do we ban? - Hannibal - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 08:50 AM)ASimpleMan Wrote: It's a paradox. You can't understand him, he can't understand you.
Although his English did improved quite sudden when i banned him for cheating
Anyways, @NoMe keep in mind all characters name which are not inrp will be deleted as per here
RE: Why do we ban? - oZoneRanger(III) - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 04:38 AM)ASimpleMan Wrote: Look at Nelson Mandela. He went to prison, and he changed. But that was after being incarcerated.
WTF are you talking about?
Nelson Mandela spent 27 years and eight months in prison as a result of the Rivonia trial (18 years of which were spent on Robben Island). He was charged with:
Recruiting persons for training in the preparation and use of explosives and in guerrilla warfare for the purpose of violent revolution and committing acts of sabotage.
Conspiring to commit the aforementioned acts and to aid foreign military units when they invaded the Republic, acting in these ways to further the objects of communism
Soliciting and receiving money for these purposes from sympathizers in Algeria, Ethiopia, Liberia, Nigeria, Tunisia, and elsewhere.
The trial was condemned by the United Nations Security Council and nations around the world, leading to international sanctions against the South African government in some cases.
Mandela did not change because of his imprisonment, South Africa did. Nelson Mandela, speaking in the dock of the court on 20 April 1964, said:
“During my lifetime I have dedicated my life to this struggle of the African people. I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons will live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal for which I hope to live for and to see realised. But, my Lord, if it needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.”
I do not understand the point you are trying to make on punishment by using Mandela as an example.
RE: Why do we ban? - NoMe - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 09:36 AM)Hannibal Wrote:(01-17-2017, 08:50 AM)ASimpleMan Wrote: It's a paradox. You can't understand him, he can't understand you.
Although his English did improved quite sudden when i banned him for cheating
Anyways, @NoMe keep in mind all characters name which are not inrp will be deleted as per here
Hannibal, are you trying to annoy me? when i have any problem, you are not too far it seems
now i have almost all my ships disappeared on my new accounts, it's not fun for me, i have followed all the advices (unarmed and rearmed all my ships, your game change the rules every day 3/4 h ago i have all my ships, you come, and now almost nothing! are you here to annoy me or what?
vaste my time is not a thing that i like to much, if it is anyoneelse who do it, it is simple to understand, i don't like it too
so please chose anther guy than me to use your ban/delete tool. you break my game, i'm not in any faction mister, the rp for my ships has to be created. like you probably know and if you don't remember see the list of all my ships deleted, those extracted from my new accounts are new!
be frank and explain you if you have something against me! is it an *âge* problem? maybe are you a very Young admin to play the role of NoMe annoyer, it's just a question to myself
RE: Why do we ban? - Sombs - 01-17-2017
They game rules were always the same, NoMe. For example, not posting ooRP in the roleplay section, giving ships inRP names and not modifying ini files were ALWAYS a thing. The only ini files that are allowed to be edited are those regarding the graphical user interface and the blooming mod. Why would you think that editing mining values is allowed? Why did you never think that it may be a bit cheesy that you think you are allowed to do it while others play with the normal values? Isn't that a bit unfair towards them?
RE: Why do we ban? - NoMe - 01-17-2017
bon, sombra useless to talk about my sanction, it's done it's done point! for now it's another thing. and in rp, when i post, it's for a specifical reason, if the guy move my thread in flood, it's their choice not mine. like i already said, i know where i post, and (thyrzul keep your mouth closed please)
Sombra cease to analyse everything like it, like said the french guys, (tu me prends pour un con ou quoi?) must i repeat 1 time more, i know what i do, and i'm not a cheater/lier.
try to be more positive sombra, i can return all your words against you, why do you think that you are the only one who is right?
RE: Why do we ban? - Sombs - 01-17-2017
Have you once considered that the problem maybe isn't the world around you but your understanding of it?
RE: Why do we ban? - HuggieSunrise - 01-17-2017
(01-16-2017, 10:03 PM)Foxglove Wrote: Because the day we stop giving at least second chances is the day we stop caring altogether.
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Care isnt the issue this subject is laughable.. I said something close to this. it was originally from a very old treatise of crime and punishment.
There is an established procedure of unbanning. In this case a second chance is a cheap and effective tool to dismissing the matter forever. all of these.. goofy.. appeals of caring or uncaring or peoples worth in this community is moot.
the only thing admins will demonstrate by not granting a second chance is there literally paranoid laz is a masterful source of anarchy that will disrupt their lives irreparably again. a narrow view. they need to focus on what counts.
Which is the hypothetical second ban. ban him again he can stay out forever and you dont even have to worry about it. But not giving the chance for laz to conform. begrudgingly or not. shows intense unprofessional thinking and bias.
RE: Why do we ban? - Divine - 01-17-2017
This topic is ridicilous. Can't tell what a proper solution would look like. What I can tell is that some of the most serious offenders have been admins at some point. Now everyone may conclude by that whatever they wish.
RE: Why do we ban? - Alley - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 12:22 PM)HuggieSunrise Wrote: But not giving the chance for laz to conform. begrudgingly or not. shows intense unprofessional thinking and bias.
What is laughable is people going all out for second chances, almost white knight level, but only for the people they actually think deserve one.
What about GamerGirl, Alhimik, Snakelancer, Sava, Burak, Exodite, Hone, Lyth, Makc or many others. Oh wait.
RE: Why do we ban? - Corile - 01-17-2017
Quote:LythLyth should be unbanned desu senpai