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RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Calo - 02-27-2017
(02-27-2017, 10:12 AM)sindroms Wrote: Also, can you please elaborate on your specified example :
Quote:I would like to have some further explanation on CD-ing pursued player to get it killed with gunboat NPC patrol. I've been to such a situation a few times, but since it is not against server rules I have not reported it, despite it being pretty low of the chasers.
It seems awfully specific.
This example mostly applies to lawfuls, which despite the fact they would intercept me easily - or even fight me off - simply insist on CDing me nearby Gunboat NPC patrols (which happen to spawn at certain places), giving very little to no chance to run away, instantly being shot down by NPCs.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - sindroms - 02-27-2017
Well, if you are caught in such a spot, I would say it is your own fault. There is nothing wrong rules-wise about it, unless you are CDed by a player who should not be doing so (unhired/unbountied freelancer, recruit ID, etc).
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - sasapinjic - 02-27-2017
Quote:5.2 Using cruise disruptors or missiles in order to track a ship that has successfully cloaked away during an interaction.
5.3 Intentionally ramming a capital ship with a smaller ship in order to ''flip'' it or ramming a capital ship in order to ''catapult'' your ship away from it.
5.4 Intentionally self-killing, teamkilling, planet and sun-diving during Combat Event Plugin enabled battles in order to prevent the opposing team from scoring points.
It was a god damn time for this to become clear as "what not to do" , i fully approve .
(02-27-2017, 10:19 AM)Calo Wrote:Quote:I would like to have some further explanation on CD-ing pursued player to get it killed with gunboat NPC patrol. I've been to such a situation a few times, but since it is not against server rules I have not reported it, despite it being pretty low of the chasers.
This example mostly applies to lawfuls, which despite the fact they would intercept me easily - or even fight me off - simply insist on CDing me nearby Gunboat NPC patrols (which happen to spawn at certain places), giving very little to no chance to run away, instantly being shot down by NPCs.
Yeah , happen to me to , basically it is trolling/abusing game mehanic by my opinion .
Example , i fly in LR Destroyer , Liberty Navy LF/HF/VHF player has no way to defeat me solo , ( and has no RP reason to attack Destroyer solo to , couse he cant win in that situation , to quote NPC : "it is suicide to attack" ) but he abuse game mechanic by keeps using almighty CD at me and NPC Patrol /POB/NPC Base damages me .
There should be rule not to CD human opponent when he pass near hostile object , or to nerf CD to avoid all sort of similar problems in first place .
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - HanCloudstone - 02-27-2017
Guys. Are you for real? Killing an enemy through the use of NPCs and environment is as legit as any other way.
This game is not a "honorabu PvP vacuum", you know. This talk here gives me memories of Dark Souls' and Souls-like games' PvP...
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - sindroms - 02-27-2017
NPCs are a part of the game environment and will treat pirates as hostile. If you get caught by them during a fight, you might want to rethink your fight locations. For example not sit next to Manhattan.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Calo - 02-27-2017
Quote:For example not sit next to Manhattan.
Actually, it wasn't inside New York, let alone Planet Manhattan - I don't lurk around planets or major bases beside fly-through moments. Sometimes there are NPC gunboats spawning at very random locations, such as Texas Gate in Bering or at Cambridge Gate in Omega-3.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - sasapinjic - 02-27-2017
(02-27-2017, 01:37 PM)sasapinjic Wrote: basically it is trolling/abusing game mehanic by my opinion .
Just my opinion , like anybody will implement anything just becouse i have opinion on something . xd
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Jack_Henderson - 02-27-2017
Good call to get the "real meaning" of the rule back into just 1 rule thread.
If veterans have to look up things in the "clarification" thread and my rule knowledge feels murky (which has not happened before), shortening the rules likely was taken too far.
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Backo - 02-27-2017
(02-27-2017, 01:27 PM)Calo Wrote:Quote:For example not sit next to Manhattan.
Actually, it wasn't inside New York, let alone Planet Manhattan - I don't lurk around planets or major bases beside fly-through moments. Sometimes there are NPC gunboats spawning at very random locations, such as Texas Gate in Bering or at Cambridge Gate in Omega-3.
Who would've thought there's such a thing as border patrol?
RE: Admin Notice: Rule changes regarding cheating + Clarification on CDing cloaked ships - Backo - 02-27-2017
Calo Wrote:(02-27-2017, 02:09 PM)Bloodl1ke Wrote:(02-27-2017, 01:27 PM)Calo Wrote:Quote:For example not sit next to Manhattan.
Actually, it wasn't inside New York, let alone Planet Manhattan - I don't lurk around planets or major bases beside fly-through moments. Sometimes there are NPC gunboats spawning at very random locations, such as Texas Gate in Bering or at Cambridge Gate in Omega-3.
Who would've thought there's such a thing as border patrol?
I don't think Gunboat patrol should spawn in any independent system.
The gates even if in independent system are still IFF'd to their respective military so I don't see why the gunboats won't patrol to make sure the gate is safe. Move 5-10K away from the gate and you're completely free of their rule. In reality that's what independent systems are - a buffer between two nations with respective militaries guarding the entrances.