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"Planned Battles" SUCK! let's have some realism here - Coin - 01-25-2009
' Wrote:Not all of us have multiple accounts and game time to build a dozen chars for continuous play.
Define continuous play. You can 'play' in a uber-dread with maxed out armour, as well as you can 'play' in a starflea, collecting silver in colorado and irritating the LN by getting too close to their capship and saying 'Ooh, nice ship, but can you stop spinning it while i take a closer look?'. Here's the thing: if you don't MAKE time to create other chars, you won't have 'em. You've been here six months? At my six month mark i celebrated by creating my sixth character (6x4=24=continuous play). This mod is designed so that there is no skill slump in the middle: fighting at low levels in liberty is just as engaging as fighting in the borderworlds in your mid-level char, is just as engaging as raiding nomad space and 'bringing home the jellies'
' Wrote:Yeah, in the thoughts of realism...you wouldnt be able to unknowingly mass a large attack force, and go fly into someone elses home system with it...i think the last time that was pulled off was in Pearl Harbor. So warning them that you are coming in a PM is sort of simulating the "realism" of your enemy obviously having knowledge of a large enemy fleet coming their way.
Sure on the one hour thing imho if you are willing to spend 2 million for a name change and think up a different RP background/personality everytime you die. =/
I've been on my WT char, and I've seen a big build up of players in gamma, and i think; 'oh noez, those pesky 'sairs are a-coming', and you know what? i'm usually right. About 2 months ago the combined forces of the WT/BAF/BPA were enough for them to decide to go elsewhere: this wasn't a pre-planned invasion, it was a raid.
Planning raids is futile. Raids should be max 5 ships, nothing bigger than a VHF, and either skirmishing on the borders, or deep into enemy territory catching them unawares. A group of 5 will probably go unnoticed in the player list.
An Invasion needs planning. firstly, all the troops need to be on deck, ready to fight, without cries of 'i just gotta get me a snack/snac/etc. Secondly, those boys have gone there to fight, so they deserve something to fight. In reality, your spies would tell you of a good time to attack, when the enemy's guard is down.
If there's no-one there for you to fight, they've just pulled back and are defending planet-side.
Two weeks ago, we saw an unplanned 'sair invasion of cambs. Nine of em came, and there was only one BAF and 3 WT online. They did the decent thing and half their forces sat out the engagement, cos gankfests are nasty. By coming unplanned (i.e. unannounced) they were the ones suffering: they had no-one to fight!
' Wrote:it just seems that a large number of players just never want to fight against huge odds.
Let me introduce you to WT-Biskit. He's one of the best LF pilots i know. In the unplanned invasion above, we were outgunned 2:1, and we didn't blink. In fact, when he was given the opportunity to withdraw by the OPG player, he laughed, turned and shot his CM off. In the end, it was 5:1 and he was still fighting, having lost all his guns, mines, CM's, CD's, he typed out 'Ramming speed' and flew into the player with only a sliver of hull left.
The four hour rule adds realism: unless your unpardonably nihilistic, im sure that you would try to avoid death; that's what they're doing when they avoid the gank-fest. they don't want to have their character locked out for four hours because:
' Wrote:Not all of us have multiple accounts and game time to build a dozen chars for continuous play.
"Planned Battles" SUCK! let's have some realism here - Cosmos - 01-25-2009
jsut what i expected from a guy whom has'nt even been here a month,
Grats for making the most idiotic post of 2009!*Big Loose*:rolleyes:
(Also WT dont start crap about the sairs, ive seen what you do, 1 lone bomber/fighter, and you bring what? 5 fighters and a Gunboat, nice..... way too pvpwhore)
I'd better see an appology coming pretty soon for this blatent flame. -Joe
"Planned Battles" SUCK! let's have some realism here - swift - 01-25-2009
Play nice, child.
"Planned Battles" SUCK! let's have some realism here - tfmachad - 01-25-2009
Seeing how this topic appears to only go downhill from here on and how the subject itself has already been discussed to exhaustion, I'm calling upon the gods of closure.