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4.85 Economy Bug Reports - SimonBlack - 03-14-2009
Read a rumor that Ogashawa reaps a lot profits by supplying H-Fuel to Luxury Liner Hawaii. I think it should show (not a big profit of course, since its very close but it would be nice for the new economy to reflect at RP and rumors) Appearantly the Liner consumed a lot of energy and fuel. The profit pays for Ogashawa's operations adn the rest of fuel is exported.
(Also, Shinkaku producing Fertilizers is win)
![[Image: screen3.BMP-1391793.jpg]](http://imajr.com/screen3.BMP-1391793)
Oh yeah, another slight issue. This rumor that I found says that Lights Arms are exported from Liberty to Kusari. Though the only route from Detroit Munitions I was able to find was Light Arms to Fuchu Prison. Perhaps this trade could show by making Lights Arms profitable at Deshima Station?
Universal Shipping platform of Trenton supplies Bounty Hunters of Sheffield station with Lights Arms as I've mentioned in a Happy Bounty Hunters Quiz quite some time ago. There is already trade from Detroit, but not from Trenton. Perhaps Lights Arms could be there, too? (with only slightly higher price of course, so it would still make more profit taking Arms from Detroit)
Edit (didnt want to post in a row) Cardamine sells for nothing in Bretonia. Some pirate bases buy it in Independent Worlds and Newcastle but other than that its as cheap as Food or Water. At least trafalgar in New London should buy it (maybe not much but at least for RP purposes) since its a distribution point as it was in 4.84
Edit 2: I looted Outcast smuggler with Cardamine in New London and my BH viewed that as a big opportunity, but I couldnt sell it for more than 200 credits.
4.85 Economy Bug Reports - Kambei - 03-14-2009
red diamonds are sold on Huston for 1600 credits but on Manhatan only for 250 credits... this make no sense
4.85 Economy Bug Reports - SimonBlack - 03-15-2009
There used to be a well RPed route which would not earn all that much, but would be fun to do (much like Light Arms from Rochester to Hudson Rogue base), because you'd feel like a real smuggler - not closing trade lanes and such. Anyway, Blood Diamonds (Omega 11, Vogtland Diamonds werent that profitable) to Kreuzberg Depot does not sell for profit anymore, it goes to minus (then you would take Lights Arms from Kreuzberg to Freital/Ronneburg). This should be changed and made profitable on Hessian scale. Really really pretty please?
4.85 Economy Bug Reports - SimonBlack - 03-15-2009
Found the screenshot concerning Ogashawa and Hawaii Liner
![[Image: screen19.BMP-1392893.jpg]](http://imajr.com/screen19.BMP-1392893)
Ogashawa is still the main supplier of H Fuel to all the major houses. Naha's price is okay. But Fujisawa only helps to reduce expenditures on terraforming operation of Miura. H Fuel price should be reduce to be lower than that on Aomori. Besides it would make trading Fuel from mining facility to distribution point. Also Hawaii Liner could actually be supported with Ogashawa's Fuel. Hence a raise would be needed on Hawaii. If it conflicts with economy, H Fuel price in Omicrons should be slightly reduced. Not necesarily, though.
Also Liberty -> Rheinland and Kusari -> Bretonia runs are a fail. (I know you won't like this, but in my opinion it's a huge error in otherwise neat trading system, here are a few points why)
1. Blockade trade is between lawful corporations.
2. Contraband should be run between Junker and pirate bases, not corproate facilities, because that implies that there's a government contract and that borders are open.
3. Right now we have IC trains supplying Rheinland with resources from Liberty.
4. Prices should be reduced anyway, they are slightly to high, even with the logic of "higher demand". (again, the higher demand makes sense, but lawful facilities should not have routes)
5. Blockade is hard to enforce because RM/LN and KNF/BAF aren't there to catch smugglers all the time and quite frankly it would be boring job pew-pewing oorp trains running contraband by lanes. It can hardly be stopped. A trader explodes, but will continue the run the next time regardless.
6. Main trading corridors should be Bering+Hudson; Kepler+Galileo; Omega 3+7; Taus; Cortez+Magellan; Sigma 13; Sigmas (heading to omicrons); Gallia should have more inner-house routes rather than inter-house ones with the exception of Council.
I understand Xoria that it would be a huge amount of work, but Bretonia-Kusari and Rheinland-Liberty runs should be reconsidered. (as well as some issues regarding gallia, it wont die out if it wont have great runs with other houses. people are already spread and thats a good thing)
4.85 Economy Bug Reports - Mr_3ppozz - 03-15-2009
Maybe its already been said... but neither Java nor Falkland (tau-23 and tau-37) has Niobium at the commodity dealer... and im quite sure they should...
Falkland is a rockbase hiding in the middle of a niobium field.... and Java is the forward selling station for non-IMG ships.
--Edit--
Great thanks Xoria ^^
4.85 Economy Bug Reports - Xoria - 03-15-2009
' Wrote:Maybe its already been said... but neither Java nor Falkland (tau-23 and tau-37) has Niobium at the commodity dealer... and im quite sure they should...Those two prices were removed temporarily for this beta release, and will be restored once a problem is sorted out.
Falkland is a rockbase hiding in the middle of a niobium field.... and Java is the forward selling station for non-IMG ships.
Perhaps this could be looked over
4.85 Economy Bug Reports - finaldragons - 03-16-2009
dunno but..
at the release i could ship ship hull panels to new tokio from singapore shipyard
now there the highest buying price on singapore?
will this be fixt or do we stick with max small 100 profit each item from singapore?
4.85 Economy Bug Reports - Laowai - 03-16-2009
Are refugees primarily a RP commodity?
I have by no means explored widely enough to speak definitively here but anyway:
They seem to imply that most of them are "Corsairs" from their info, however, you cannot get them on Crete, are they available at any other Corsair bases? Also, wouldn't it make sense to have them available at a relatively cheap price in areas of war/famine/economic hardship? they seem to be quite expensive everywhere - i realise there could be a balance issue here, just wanted to know the rationale behind it.
4.85 Economy Bug Reports - Benjamin - 03-16-2009
' Wrote:Also Liberty -> Rheinland and Kusari -> Bretonia runs are a fail. (I know you won't like this, but in my opinion it's a huge error in otherwise neat trading system, here are a few points why)
1. Blockade trade is between lawful corporations.
2. Contraband should be run between Junker and pirate bases, not corproate facilities, because that implies that there's a government contract and that borders are open.
3. Right now we have IC trains supplying Rheinland with resources from Liberty.
4. Prices should be reduced anyway, they are slightly to high, even with the logic of "higher demand". (again, the higher demand makes sense, but lawful facilities should not have routes)
5. Blockade is hard to enforce because RM/LN and KNF/BAF aren't there to catch smugglers all the time and quite frankly it would be boring job pew-pewing oorp trains running contraband by lanes. It can hardly be stopped. A trader explodes, but will continue the run the next time regardless.
6. Main trading corridors should be Bering+Hudson; Kepler+Galileo; Omega 3+7; Taus; Cortez+Magellan; Sigma 13; Sigmas (heading to omicrons); Gallia should have more inner-house routes rather than inter-house ones with the exception of Council.
I understand Xoria that it would be a huge amount of work, but Bretonia-Kusari and Rheinland-Liberty runs should be reconsidered. (as well as some issues regarding gallia, it wont die out if it wont have great runs with other houses. people are already spread and thats a good thing)
I agree with this man. Traders fail RP-wise way more than any other characters, no need to give them a helping hand.
4.85 Economy Bug Reports - Kambei - 03-16-2009
Xoria...
Refugees are realy unbalanced comodity. Only wht you need is just take them at Leeds (system Leeds) and sell them at South Shields Refinery (system newcastle).... that is only one single jump and it is second best proft from them (2857 credits per unit under 5 minutes).
Same for battleship Hood, just one jump... travell time around 5 minutes and bang 1869 credits per unit.
Birmingham detto.
Bretoninas can make big money realy realy fast.